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I've got a secret....
« on: May 22, 2015, 11:01:10 PM »
Working on a firearm purchase right now with another member. Not gonna tell ya what it is, but I'll tell ya what it ISN'T.
It's not a Colt
It's not a revolver
It's not a muzzleloader

HOWEVER:
It is historically accurate from a post Civil-war perspective
It will look damn good next to my Second Dragoon or a '60 Army

For those of you who might have seen my post on the Remmy forum...zip  it! :-X
The rest of you who have no clue...hazard a guess!
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Re: I've got a secret....
« Reply #1 on: May 23, 2015, 06:55:52 AM »
A pistol?

And no, I haven't seen it on our Remmy Forum.

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Re: I've got a secret....
« Reply #2 on: May 23, 2015, 10:22:53 AM »
I know.   It will look good sitting anywhere with any gun anytime.   Hope you can get your hands on it soon.

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Re: I've got a secret....
« Reply #3 on: May 23, 2015, 10:13:45 PM »
A pistol?

And no, I haven't seen it on our Remmy Forum.

Yes you have. It's not a pistol.

I know.   It will look good sitting anywhere with any gun anytime.   Hope you can get your hands on it soon.

Thanks for not letting the cat out of the bag, Mike! ;)
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Re: I've got a secret....
« Reply #4 on: May 24, 2015, 09:38:29 AM »
I'll guess a double barrel shotgun!?

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Re: I've got a secret....
« Reply #5 on: May 24, 2015, 07:48:56 PM »
I'll guess a double barrel shotgun!?

 ;) Close, but no ceegar! (7&
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Re: I've got a secret....
« Reply #6 on: May 25, 2015, 07:17:27 AM »
I guess it's something before my time...right?

I still don't know what it is.

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Re: I've got a secret....
« Reply #7 on: June 30, 2015, 07:22:01 PM »
Well, OK fellers...might as well tell ya since nobody guessed.
Mazo Kid is making me a FINE deal on a gun from his collection...a Pedersoli 1874 Sharps in .45/70. And with his permission, I will post a few photos he put up on our sister forum:









I am SO stoked to get this and start loading for and shooting BPCR!!!! While I already reload the .45/70 for my High Wall, I shoot jacketed bullets and smokeless out of that one. No good Sharps deserves to be fed on a diet of smokeless and this one is gonna get it's fill of Holy Black, believe you me!
There are a few BPCR's left on my wish list, but this one was the Big Kahuna!
Thanks, Mazo!
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Re: I've got a secret....
« Reply #8 on: June 30, 2015, 09:17:00 PM »
Hope you can get it soon.   I want to hear all about it.

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Re: I've got a secret....
« Reply #9 on: July 01, 2015, 04:53:49 AM »
I like it!.................I mean, I want it!  L@.

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« Reply #10 on: July 01, 2015, 05:24:35 AM »
 ;) You will love it. My Armisport 74 is a blast to shoot and accurate.

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Re: I've got a secret....
« Reply #11 on: July 01, 2015, 10:45:23 AM »
Thanks for the kind words. fellers! And Scooby...do elaborate on your recommendations for a BPCR .45/70....boolit, powder, loading tips, etc. I want to start shopping around and gathering up components, etc. I've never loaded BP in a cartridge before...am I gonna need a drop tube to stuff 70gr in those cases? I'm thinkin' so.
I have no problem buying cast bullets for my initial trials, but would eventually want to get into casting my own boolits. Recommendations? What weight/profile works best in these? Pure lead or a harder mix? Enlighten me...
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Re: I've got a secret....
« Reply #12 on: July 02, 2015, 03:59:44 AM »
I used to load and fire a lot of 45-70, until I got a 50-70.  One book that was and still is invaluable,

http://4570book.info/

Lots of good information in there about how to reconstruct a round that will equal the old Arsenal load.  Some things have been found to be unnecessary, like enlarging flash holes, but still a lot of pertinent information.

I used GOEX 2f for decades.  Recently I have found Olde Eynsforde to be quite a bit cleaner and faster.  If you have any of it locally try it.  If not, there are a few powder houses that will ship it to you.  I have not used a drop tube in years.  Too much fun trying to balance the case, tube, funnel and powder.  Instead, I slowly pour the powder through my funnel from about 8-10 inches above the funnel.  Slowly, as in maybe a 10 second pour.  And yes, you can get 70 grains of powder in modern cases.

Bullets, lots of good molds are available, the Money Bullet, The Postell, or the original, the Lyman 457125 (500 grain to duplicate the 1882 load) or the Lee 459-405-HB to duplicate the 1873 load and the carbine load.  And lots of others.  Regardless of the bullet chosen, it should be cast of a soft alloy.  Nothing harder than a 20/1 mix of lead and tin.  I prefer going as soft as 40/1 in my Rolling Block.  It likes that mix.

Lube.  SPG is the standard by which all lubes should be measured.  It is not cheap and can be approximated in the home lab.  I use a mix of beeswax and olive oil.  The target shooters add lanolin, STP, eye of newt and other stuff to make it better for their purposes.  A simple mixture works for me, the non-target shooter.

Any large rifle primer will spark black powder.  Some think the LR primer is too harsh and use a buffer between the primer and powder.  Again, these are the techie type guys looking for the last .000000001 inch in the group.  If I get a rifle and load that consistently gives me 3 MOA, I am happy. 

There are other fora devoted to the loading of black powder 45-70 loads and many pages have been discussed over how to settle powders, why to use compression, how to comb your hair, etc.  It all boils down to how technical you want to get.

Once you get a grasp of loading with black powder and lead, come on back.  The graduate level of 45-70 loading is paper patching!

Load it up and enjoy it!

Kevin
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Re: I've got a secret....
« Reply #13 on: August 30, 2015, 03:19:08 PM »
Hey Kirk, can you taste that gun yet? It keeps calling out your name....."Kirk, come and get me!" I can load a few black powder rounds for you as I have several 45-70 molds/weights, from 305 grains to 550 grains.

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Re: I've got a secret....
« Reply #14 on: August 30, 2015, 07:51:02 PM »
I dream about it nightly. Trust me.
It would bev nice to get a few rounds with it. Maybe I'll get to shoot it before the winter winds blow?
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