1873 Pietta Cap & Ball

[prof marvel]

Hi Hawg & Mike -
Sorry to leave you hanging - I suddenly remembered was reminded that I had to take Mrs Marvel to the Incredibley Important Thingy Appointment.

I'll get some date codes, markings, photos and measurements posted later.

mainly, the three I have all take the same diameter of cylinder, but lengths are different, and other odd bits, such as cylinder bushing, the firing pin holes in the frames are of different shapes, and last, the frame weight and thickness, and the grip thickness is less in the oldest one!

kind of like the "enlargement" of the Pietta 1858 over the years....

more later, after I heat up some leftovers for our dinner .

yhs
prof (slow today) marvel

[mike116]

No hurry,  relax a little after that Incredibly Important Thingy Appointment.

[prof marvel]

ah thanks for the considerable understanding mike! reheating some leftovers left me exhausterated.
that's my story and i'm sticking to it 

yhs
prof ( tuckered out ) marvel

[AntiqueSledMan]

I did purchase an extra cylinder off e-bay, new in the box Traditions 187344SC.
Thinking this would work in my Pietta, guess again.
This must be either an A.S.M. or a Uberti cylinder.

[Captainkirk]

If it's Traditions, I'm guessing ASM.

[Hawg]

I don't think ASM made these. Traditions should be Pietta.

[mike116]

I agree with Hawg, I've never seen or heard of an 1873 BP revolver made by ASM.   Mine is Uberti and I've seen the Pietta models.

[Captainkirk]

Every Traditions BP revolver I bought has been an ASM, not sure about the '73 though. Never owned one.

[Hawg]

Every Traditions BP revolver I bought has been an ASM, not sure about the '73 though. Never owned one.

ASM has been out of business for over 15 years and I don't think they made anything since the early 90's. Traditions sells Pietta now. IIRC Uberti came out with the C&B 73 about 8 or 9 years ago and Pietta a few years later.

[Captainkirk]

Ahh, OK. I will defer to the experts here.

[45 Dragoon]

The '73 C&B I tuned for Washbuster was made by Uberti. Brushys '73 was made by ASM.

I think "everybody" made these at one time or another.

Mike
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[AntiqueSledMan]

I posted the dimensions hoping someone could tell me what I have purchased,
especially after seeing that the Professor stated there are differences.
Regardless, I was going to try & nickel plate it to go better with my 1873, not necessary now.
If someone is in need of this, it is available as I'm sure I'll never need it (the Traditions Cylinder).
I did try to peel the label back, but it looks like a plain white box with no print.

Thanks for all the input, AntiqueSledMan.

[Hawg]

The '73 C&B I tuned for Washbuster was made by Uberti. Brushys '73 was made by ASM.

I think "everybody" made these at one time or another.

Mike
www.goonsgunworks.com
Follow me on Instagram @ goonsgunworks

They've been making them longer than I thought then. I never saw one from ASM.

[mike116]

Here's the cylinder measurements from my Uberti 1873 C&B revolver manufactured in 2001.

Cylinder only = 1.643
Cylinder+bushing+ratchet =1.850
Bushing only = 0.100
Ratchet only = 0.107
Diameter = 1.670
Cylinder pin diameter = 0.249

[prof marvel]

excellent work gents!

I still have to post my poop, been swamped with Very Important Appointments.
Aaaaand I Still have to get the Christmas Deco up &  bake up 4 dozen of my
extra special Christmas Cookies ( no wheat , no milk, egg, soy, or nuts ).

So far I can see I have 2 Piettas, well marked and one ASM ( the oldest)

The Piettas are well marked, but the only marks on the ASM are the serial number and the single line on the barrel:
"sm black powder only made in italy"

some time searching revealed some info from Fingers who stated almost a lustrum ago that early ASM's often carried only that info
or "Asm black powder only made in italy "   on the barrel! Thanks Fingers!

the older Pietta took a .45 Colt cylinder with minor fitting of the bushing and shaving a a little off the front of the cylinder. timing was perfect!
modifying the pin to a "flat nose cone" made it fire cartridges quite well, with no primer issues. Later I will mill out the oval firing pin orifice and press fit a hardened steel bushing in, and replace the funky firing pin with an old style colt pin.

The ASM has the "thinner" dimensions on the topstrap and frame, and the grip is just a tish thinner at the base, actually a more comfortable fit
than the larger Piettas. It makes me think that Pietta has adopted the slightly oversize frame model to all their SAA's - but I don't mind as
a little more meat in the topstrap and frame watertable and around the barrel equates to a little more strength. It implies to this tireed brain
that the same frames are used in these 1873's and their .45 Colt , .44 Mag and .357 Mag.

more later as time allows.

yhs
prof marvel