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Colt .45 SAA on a Black Powder frame 1884
« on: June 26, 2018, 06:42:45 PM »
Hello,

I do not normally care too much for restorations - if you've happened across the half dozen or so other Colt's I posted pictures of from my collection, you'll appreciate that I love patina and scars, period-fixes, etc., but this one yelled my name.

It's an 1884 Colt on a black powder frame - note lack of quick release on the cylinder pin - smaller grip size.
It came with the Colt paperwork, and provenance on the original owner - named in the Colt history letter.

As far as I am aware, the restoration from the "original firearm" began on an unserviceable collection of beat-up parts, with many components beyond help. 
This one was effectively brought back from the dead, the barrel is a replacement.
The action is crisp like a brand-new-gun, beautiful sounding elements and timing like glass.

I am still enamored of it, but I am thinking I may shoot the Hell out of it, and allow it to create it's own patina, the restoration was by danthegunman.com (and is fine work) but not a five figure museum grade deal.
 - What do the six-gunners here think about that?  Sacrilege, or have at it!!!!

PS. I won't shoot smokeless powder in the old Colt or any other black powder gun.  I wouldn't even use artifical black ... only true black, and a good grade, too .... and then only light to medium loads of the stuff.  This cylinder is likely wrought iron, and not steel, not that the steel was even proofed for smokeless until after the turn of the century.
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Re: Colt .45 SAA on a Black Powder frame 1884
« Reply #1 on: June 26, 2018, 07:53:35 PM »
Nothing wrong with restoring an old Colt back to shootable condition.   Go ahead and "shoot the Hell out of it".

I think it looks much better as a complete workable gun rather than a pile of rusted parts.

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Re: Colt .45 SAA on a Black Powder frame 1884
« Reply #2 on: June 26, 2018, 08:07:24 PM »
I like it the way it is, nice and shiney looking. I like old stuff that is in new condition. I have a butchered Bisley that I'm going to restore.

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Re: Colt .45 SAA on a Black Powder frame 1884
« Reply #3 on: June 26, 2018, 10:06:29 PM »
Thank you, gents,

Honestly there is a part of me that feels it is almost a waste not to shoot such firearm.
It's what it was designed for, was restored to do, and earned a legendary reputation for.

I have had guns you couldn't shoot for fear of breaking them, matching small parts etc.,

This is a Colt .45 with Cowboy action loads it's going to do just fine, and I rather think it should be shot.

I appreciate your input - nothing will happen for a few months anyway, on a job in the UK.
(Yes, will be searching for blackpowder arms there, too - they are allowed them and they're comparatively priced to the US.)

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Re: Colt .45 SAA on a Black Powder frame 1884
« Reply #4 on: June 27, 2018, 07:29:24 AM »
Hi pit, that's one beautiful looking Colt. If it shoots as good as it looks, it will be one great gun.

I look forward to your shooting report.

Regards,
Richard
There’s nothing better in the morning than the smell of bacon and black powder smoke!

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Re: Colt .45 SAA on a Black Powder frame 1884
« Reply #5 on: June 27, 2018, 08:59:02 PM »
Pretty Colt I like it.

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Re: Colt .45 SAA on a Black Powder frame 1884
« Reply #6 on: June 27, 2018, 10:52:03 PM »
I look forward to your shooting report.

Thanks!
I will probably only smoke one box of low-recoil BP loads, or so -
After a few days of researching these pre-1904 frames, I have to say, I probably won't shoot a whole lot through it.

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Re: Colt .45 SAA on a Black Powder frame 1884
« Reply #7 on: June 29, 2018, 08:29:29 PM »
No reason not to shoot a refinished gun unless it's not safe.

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Re: Colt .45 SAA on a Black Powder frame 1884
« Reply #8 on: June 30, 2018, 10:45:08 AM »
Real nice looking gun.
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Re: Colt .45 SAA on a Black Powder frame 1884
« Reply #9 on: July 01, 2018, 12:41:24 AM »
Thank you, gents!

Will photograph and video the event for sure.


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Re: Colt .45 SAA on a Black Powder frame 1884
« Reply #10 on: July 01, 2018, 06:30:49 AM »
I like those grips.  L@.

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Re: Colt .45 SAA on a Black Powder frame 1884
« Reply #11 on: July 03, 2018, 02:29:55 PM »
I like it also, nothing wrong with making a good serviceable gun out of a beat up one. Probably even enhanced the value.

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Re: Colt .45 SAA on a Black Powder frame 1884
« Reply #12 on: July 06, 2018, 07:47:25 AM »
It looks like the cylinder might be a replacement too. I believe an original cylinder for a "black powder" frame would have more prominent beveling. I still would not shoot smokeless out of it. I like it, it looks real good.

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Re: Colt .45 SAA on a Black Powder frame 1884
« Reply #13 on: July 09, 2018, 07:08:24 AM »
Very nice!

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Re: Colt .45 SAA on a Black Powder frame 1884
« Reply #14 on: July 17, 2018, 09:01:53 AM »
Thanks Gents - as I wrote, always skeptical of "restored" Colt's - but I was assured this one was unserviceable and a save, rather than a restoration.