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'58 vs '75...
« on: March 23, 2022, 09:43:07 AM »
this we all know, and some love.
https://www.dixiegunworks.com/index/page/product/product_id/8654/category_id/321/product_name/RH0489+Dixie+Pietta+Remington+New+Model+Army+Revolver

This, the best I can tell is to the '58, what the '73 Colt is to the '61, etc.
https://www.dixiegunworks.com/index/page/product/product_id/8768/category_id/319/category_chain/312,325/product_name/CR0736+UBERTI+1875+SAA+OUTLAW+REV+45LC+7.5%22

Why did Remington feel the need to, or what purpose was served, by elongating the frame into the grip so much more than a '58?

Always wondered, and someone mentioned DGW in another thread, and I started keyboard dreaming... and tripped across that while looking at their Colt Open Top cartridge guns.

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Re: '58 vs '75...
« Reply #1 on: March 23, 2022, 09:59:01 AM »
Clyde, my guess would be to give the shooter's knuckles some breathing space. The '58 (in reality, '62) Remington can be a real knuckle-popper at times, especially with full house loads.
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Re: '58 vs '75...
« Reply #2 on: March 23, 2022, 02:21:16 PM »
Clyde, my guess would be to give the shooter's knuckles some breathing space. The '58 (in reality, '62) Remington can be a real knuckle-popper at times, especially with full house loads.

That would be my guess too. It does give it an unwieldy feel tho.
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Re: '58 vs '75...
« Reply #3 on: March 23, 2022, 03:22:45 PM »
Clyde, my guess would be to give the shooter's knuckles some breathing space. The '58 (in reality, '62) Remington can be a real knuckle-popper at times, especially with full house loads.
I agree completely. That’s why my ‘58 is a 36 and not a 44.

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Re: '58 vs '75...
« Reply #4 on: March 24, 2022, 09:41:31 PM »
Went into the local gun and hardware store in Wallace, today. I was looking for pistol caps, none... lol.

They had a Cimarron.44WCF '75, so I dropped a cylinder out of the '58, and went comparing. (it was capped).

There is DEFINITIVELY more knuckle room, and I instantly fell in love, but $599, but might as well be $59,999 until the truck I just bought starts burning diesel for pay...
Said elongation isn't as pronounced in person, as it was in the pictures, on the DGW site.
Nice piece. Interestingly, it has a triple cock hammer.
so first cock, barely comes out of the "hole" cylinder is locked, hammer not resting on a primer, no safety detents, not cap and ball.
second/Half is the same as a '58, cylinder moves, the trigger is solid, etc.
Third, it goes boom.

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Re: '58 vs '75...
« Reply #5 on: March 24, 2022, 11:12:32 PM »
I looked at and handled one at my LGS. It didn't balance well and was in .45 Colt which I don't reload for. Then I spotted the Richards Mason .38 in the next counter and any thoughts I had about the 75 Remington flew out the door at supersonic speeds.
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Re: '58 vs '75...
« Reply #6 on: March 25, 2022, 07:40:00 AM »
A number of years ago, I bought an 1875 thinking it would have a similar action feel as the NMA. The grip angle was really comfortable but the action had quite a long hammer throw compared to the NMA. It even felt longer than an 1873 SAA. For CAS, it cost me some misfires. I put it away and eventually sold it.

I did get the chance to hold one of the originals and it was spectacularly comfortable. Much more so than the Italian copies.

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Re: '58 vs '75...
« Reply #7 on: March 25, 2022, 08:25:25 AM »
I did get the chance to hold one of the originals and it was spectacularly comfortable. Much more so than the Italian copies.

How so, Marshal?
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Re: '58 vs '75...
« Reply #8 on: March 25, 2022, 09:32:24 AM »
I did get the chance to hold one of the originals and it was spectacularly comfortable. Much more so than the Italian copies.

How so, Marshal?
It's been a while but I recall the grip being a bit narrower feeling, not so chunky. It wasn't much difference visually but it felt more, graceful, for lack of a better word. Perhaps people's hands weren't as big back then and the grips reflected that.

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Re: '58 vs '75...
« Reply #9 on: March 25, 2022, 10:33:05 AM »
Not a fan of the 58 or the 75. Honestly, it's mostly that stupid sail hanging down under the barrel. I find it useless and un-attractive. But I do like the Model 90. Much better looking gun. I have a friend with one and I've fired it. It's very comfortable to shoot. They're kind of hard to find, but if one came up for sale and was reasonable, I'd buy it.


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Re: '58 vs '75...
« Reply #10 on: March 25, 2022, 10:35:22 AM »
The sail strengthens the lever.
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Re: '58 vs '75...
« Reply #11 on: March 25, 2022, 10:41:11 AM »
The sail strengthens the lever.


That's what they say. Still ugly to me.
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Re: '58 vs '75...
« Reply #12 on: March 25, 2022, 11:34:24 AM »
And I think the sail is what is most appealing to me.

Cheers to differences.

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Re: '58 vs '75...
« Reply #13 on: March 25, 2022, 02:23:28 PM »
Me too Clydesdale. I really like the Remmies. I'll have a '75 one day......  as well as a Merwin and Model 3 Smith.
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Re: '58 vs '75...
« Reply #14 on: March 27, 2022, 11:40:18 PM »
I think I'm a Remington fan myself...
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