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Re: .44 Spl S&W Not Seating Correctly
« Reply #15 on: January 09, 2023, 01:55:19 PM »
If you get a cheap dial caliper like Frankford Arsenal you will need to remove the battery after you use it or it will run down even with it off. At least mine does.
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Re: .44 Spl S&W Not Seating Correctly
« Reply #16 on: January 09, 2023, 03:58:19 PM »
Thank you Hawg. I was thinking Harbor Freight? Are they mostly digital now?

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Re: .44 Spl S&W Not Seating Correctly
« Reply #17 on: January 09, 2023, 04:12:21 PM »
Mostly. You can still get them with a dial but digital is so much easier to read.
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Re: .44 Spl S&W Not Seating Correctly
« Reply #18 on: January 09, 2023, 04:41:40 PM »
You need a caliper. Can't do anything until you know if the cartridges are within spec. If they aren't, there's your culprit. If they are, we can go from there and figure out what's going on.
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Re: .44 Spl S&W Not Seating Correctly
« Reply #19 on: January 09, 2023, 04:51:46 PM »
Digital is better (easier to read) than a dial and much better than a vernier. Just expect the battery to need replacing every year or so. I have several digital ones and generally have a couple batteries on hand at all times.

You need a caliper. Can't do anything until you know if the cartridges are within spec. If they aren't, there's your culprit. If they are, we can go from there and figure out what's going on.
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Re: .44 Spl S&W Not Seating Correctly
« Reply #20 on: January 10, 2023, 05:11:21 AM »
Thank you Hawg, Dave and Marshal!! I need to get one. Will do so in the next few days. Why do you have so many Marshal?? (7+"

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Re: .44 Spl S&W Not Seating Correctly
« Reply #21 on: January 10, 2023, 05:52:27 AM »
Surely a sizing issue of the ammo.  I would be contacting the manufacturer of the ammo for sure
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Re: .44 Spl S&W Not Seating Correctly
« Reply #22 on: January 10, 2023, 06:32:42 AM »
Thank you Hawg, Dave and Marshal!! I need to get one. Will do so in the next few days. Why do you have so many Marshal?? (7+"
One down on the garage workbench, one on the loading/'smithing bench and one which I had thought was faulty so I bought a replacement but it turned out to be a battery contact issue. :hysterical:

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Re: .44 Spl S&W Not Seating Correctly
« Reply #23 on: January 10, 2023, 07:12:58 AM »
As tempted as you may be, don't fire those rounds!! If it is a short chamber, it means the crimp has no room to open which means  higher  than normal pressure which can lead to ugly things. Do you have any used or unloaded cases?
  You said your snap caps fit so I bet the bullets are on the large side.  Will the bullet fit in the chamber mouth ( front of the cyl)?

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Re: .44 Spl S&W Not Seating Correctly
« Reply #24 on: January 10, 2023, 07:37:46 AM »
Will the bullet fit in the chamber mouth ( front of the cyl)?

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Re: .44 Spl S&W Not Seating Correctly
« Reply #25 on: January 10, 2023, 08:53:31 AM »
If you do any reloading for your 44 Spl, one of these cartridge gauges is a good thing to have to check your loaded cartridges to see if they meet chamber specs. If the loaded cartridge doesn't go in, something isn't to specs. It won't tell you what but it will let you know if it isn't right so you can check further.

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Re: .44 Spl S&W Not Seating Correctly
« Reply #26 on: January 10, 2023, 08:55:37 AM »
As tempted as you may be, don't fire those rounds!! If it is a short chamber, it means the crimp has no room to open which means  higher  than normal pressure which can lead to ugly things. Do you have any used or unloaded cases?
  You said your snap caps fit so I bet the bullets are on the large side.  Will the bullet fit in the chamber mouth ( front of the cyl)?

Mike

Mike!!! Thank you sir. Hey man, no worries, I will NOT try to shoot them until the verdict is back. I have not tried to insert in the front of the cylinder. I will attemt that when i get home this afternoon.   
These are some pics from last night. Capt. Kirk had asked if I could push them in with some more thumb pressure and the answer is yes. Then Shotgun D asked to see what the rounds looked like after I pushed them back out of the cylinder. See photos. Thank you for your thoughts.

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Re: .44 Spl S&W Not Seating Correctly
« Reply #27 on: January 10, 2023, 09:05:32 AM »
If you do any reloading for your 44 Spl, one of these cartridge gauges is a good thing to have to check your loaded cartridges to see if they meet chamber specs. If the loaded cartridge doesn't go in, something isn't to specs. It won't tell you what but it will let you know if it isn't right so you can check further.
If the cartridges go into this gauge but won't go into your cylinder, there might be something amiss with the chambering. You'll still need that caliper to find out what, though.

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Re: .44 Spl S&W Not Seating Correctly
« Reply #28 on: January 10, 2023, 09:08:15 AM »
Thanks Marshal.  )l_

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Re: .44 Spl S&W Not Seating Correctly
« Reply #29 on: January 10, 2023, 09:18:03 AM »
Thanks Marshal.  )l_
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