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A flintlock
« on: June 15, 2024, 09:28:07 PM »
I finally got around to getting a flintlock.   It's not a fancy, custom, hand built, period correct, rocklock but it should satisfy my desire to own one.   It's a Traditions Pennsylvania rifle in 50 cal.   I bought it online without seeing pictures or anything because it was "new in the box"  and I was dealing with someone I trust and had dealt with before.  I knew as soon as I opened the box that this was not a new rifle.   The barrel was unfinished,  flat gray,  oxidized metal.   They didn't even remove the barrel to strip the finish,  it still had bluing all over the underside.   The lock had been Case Colored at one time but someone attempted to strip the finish off the lock plate too.  Lots of other things to be fixed too so I guess you could say I bought a kit gun instead of a new rifle.   
I would have paid a bit more and got a Kibler kit had known I would end up doing so much to this rifle.   At first I intended to put the rifle away for a while but I am too impatient for that so I spent a bunch of late nights getting it ready to shoot.   Pics below show how it started out and what it looks like now.   
Barrel sanded down to 600 grit and browned with Laurel Mountain Browning and Degreaser.
I did a faux Case coloring on the Lock plate, frizzen, cock and sights after sanding and polishing.  Touched up the stock and refinished the ram rod which was red when I got it.   

I plan to shoot it next week sometime, stay tuned.

Before....






And After....









I know the locks on the Traditions rifles are not held in high regard but the barrels are supposed to be good.   It's not perfect or even sort of period correct but if it shoots OK I'll be pleased with it.   I like the way it looks now.



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Re: A flintlock
« Reply #1 on: June 15, 2024, 09:37:12 PM »
Looks great, Mike! Can't wait to read the range report!
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Re: A flintlock
« Reply #2 on: June 20, 2024, 10:04:32 AM »
Mike, that is a great looking flintlock. I know very little about flintlocks. I've watched videos of them being fired. What I find myself doing is looking specifically at the delay before the chamber is ignited. Seems like an average of one second? That in itself is interesting. I've wondered how many on an average may not ignite. If it's windy out is there a chance of the powder in the flash pan getting blown out? I would love to shoot one someday.

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Re: A flintlock
« Reply #3 on: June 20, 2024, 05:45:09 PM »
Some very nice wood on the La Longue Carabine, Mike! I like the browned finish as well as the brass inlays. Very nicely done, and very tastefully as well.
Have you had the opportunity to shoot her yet? I saw one of these on YT a years or so ago and was very impressed with the accuracy at 100 yards.
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Re: A flintlock
« Reply #4 on: June 20, 2024, 05:50:19 PM »
Mike, that is a great looking flintlock. I know very little about flintlocks. I've watched videos of them being fired. What I find myself doing is looking specifically at the delay before the chamber is ignited. Seems like an average of one second? That in itself is interesting. I've wondered how many on an average may not ignite. If it's windy out is there a chance of the powder in the flash pan getting blown out? I would love to shoot one someday.

Tim, a properly tuned flintlock should have an almost imperceptible delay. Too many people use a dull flint, the wrong priming powder, fill the pan too full, and bank the powder up against the flash hole creating a "fuse" effect rather than having the ignited powder create a flame front that goes straight through to the main charge.


https://youtu.be/a_mpBADFwLY?si=kBvQMndgNrZ73pb7
« Last Edit: June 20, 2024, 06:19:18 PM by Captainkirk »
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Re: A flintlock
« Reply #5 on: June 21, 2024, 10:33:15 AM »
Mike, that is a great looking flintlock. I know very little about flintlocks. I've watched videos of them being fired. What I find myself doing is looking specifically at the delay before the chamber is ignited. Seems like an average of one second? That in itself is interesting. I've wondered how many on an average may not ignite. If it's windy out is there a chance of the powder in the flash pan getting blown out? I would love to shoot one someday.

Tim, a properly tuned flintlock should have an almost imperceptible delay. Too many people use a dull flint, the wrong priming powder, fill the pan too full, and bank the powder up against the flash hole creating a "fuse" effect rather than having the ignited powder create a flame front that goes straight through to the main charge.


https://youtu.be/a_mpBADFwLY?si=kBvQMndgNrZ73pb7

That video opened a rabbit hole for me, lol. He has couple videos on the flint.

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Re: A flintlock
« Reply #6 on: June 21, 2024, 11:02:20 AM »
Right now I know nothing about this rifle.   I still need to polish the pan before I test it out.   I have everything I need....  4F,  3F, & 2F BP to experiment with.   Lubed patches and a couple sizes of round balls.    The agate flint installed now seems to spark quite well and have several more flints to try.   Hope to see how it shoots soon.   Time is all I need.

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Re: A flintlock
« Reply #7 on: June 21, 2024, 11:28:51 AM »
What was your faux case coloring process?

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Re: A flintlock
« Reply #8 on: June 21, 2024, 02:17:23 PM »
What was your faux case coloring process?

Strategic application of a pencil torch.   Barely heating some areas until grayness darken.  Then more heat in small areas for straw  color and even more to get blue.   Making sure it's just the surface getting hot enough to change color.    I also fire blued the lock screws.   

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Re: A flintlock
« Reply #9 on: June 21, 2024, 04:21:34 PM »
Nice touch, Mike!
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