38 Colt conversion cylinder for 1851

[ssb73q]

Hi Tom, I assume that the back end of the projectile is what you are showing? If so, the hollow base doesn't look too deep. The hollow base of the 0.358 bullets that I use (Speer and Magnus) go up to 1/2 the distance of the bullet length. If you get to shoot what you have, I would like to know on how well they work for you.

Regards,
Richard

[Tom-ADC]

No that's the front end, those are what Federal first loaded as a 38 special Hyrashok bullet, they shoot great out of my snub nose , I'd load the proper way. These expand to the size of a .50 cent piece when shot into duct seal with that little post intact, still have a box left.

[45 Dragoon]

Are these "historically" correct?  Since we are being so adamant about the caliber and the bore size .  .  .  .  why not the bullet itself? If that's gonna be thrown out, I see no point in the whole thing. This is why I don't let "historically correct" drive me. You end up compromising at some point some stage anyway (usually).  Center fire, rim fire, powder, barrel twist.
 
 Heck, I'm  happy with my non-correct, fast twist,  modern steel, .45C shooting,  gated conversion, extremely accurate, Uberti copy of Whitneyville and 1st Mod. Dragoons!! They deliver just as great a shooting experience today that the originals did for their owners that went down this "conversion" road.

Of course, I don't have the time or will or the first gen. arm (or the money for a first gen. Dragoon that I would do this to or one already converted!!).  That's just me though.

 I'm reading though,  it's interesting enough .

Mike
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[ssb73q]

Hey Richard, I want to see a few pics of your 1851 conversion with the Howell cilinders.

Mark my word, I am going to slap together an 1851 conversion from a percussion model using either a Kirst or Howell cylinder.

Hi Scooby, sorry, but I only noticed your request for photos yesterday. I got the Pietta 1851s together for a conversion cylinder family portrait, see:



The top two are 38 Colt/38 special conversion, the next two .45 Colt conversions, and the bottom brasser a .22 conversion. All the conversion cylinders other than the .22 are Howell, the .22 is a Kirst.

I have also used that Kirst .22 conversion cylinder in the 1851 Yank snub, see:



Later this week I expect to have the Howell 38 Colt/38 Special conversion cylinder for my new engraved Uberti 1851 Navy. I'll post a photo of that conversion assuming that the Pietta's won't discriminate against the sole Uberti 1851. 

Regards,
Richard

[45 Dragoon]

I'll be dog!! It just dawned on me!! (Now I feel like a D.A.  (not the attorney one!)) This is about conversion "cylinders"!!
When I hear (or see) the word " conversion" in conection with Colt, I think "gated" or "ported" (like the factory did). In my mind thats what i see. The Remington is perfect for that (thats what they did, along with "gated" versions).

So, I reckon wadcutters would be just fine.

I'm gonna go give myself a whipping!!!!!

Mike
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[ssb73q]

Hi Mike, Please don't give yourself a whipping. I just finished watch High Plains Drifter. Clint didn't like the whipping and you won't either. 

I know you don't like inserting a wedge with only finger pressure, but these 1851 with conversion cylinder don't have any issues using finger pressure on the wedge. The 38 Special HBWC and .45 Colt loads are so light that only finger pressure is required to change cylinders. The wedges stay fixed and finger pressure is all that's required to change a cylinder. I can change out an 1851 faster than any 1858.

BTW, I use a number of conversion cylinders with my many 1858s.

While I really like my 1858s, there isn't a more satisfying shooting experience than when shooting Colts. The Colts are natural pointers where I often shoot my Colts @75yds. I limit distance with my 1858s to 50yds.

Regards,
Richard 

[45 Dragoon]

That was close !! Thanks Richard!

You are right though, I smack the wedge in so the setup will have the "tuned" clearances. Finger tight won't set the clearances properly.

 I had the belt out and ready!!  Good thing I checked here one more time!!

Mike
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[Captainkirk]

 I had the belt out and ready!!  Good thing I checked here one more time!!

Mike
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Mike, if'n ya already went to that much trouble, go ahead...

[StrawHat]

... I had the belt out and ready!!  ... Mike
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Go ahead, like your Dad used to tell you, if not for this, than for something else you did I haven't found out about.

Kevin

[45 Dragoon]

Boy! What a crowd I hang out with!!!

  Buncha Freekin sadists!!! 

( ooouch, oouch, oooouch Ooouch !!!!!!!!)


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[ssb73q]

Hi Mike, these guys are a pretty good bunch. They could have suggested hanging? 

Regards,
Richard

[StrawHat]

Hi Mike, these guys are a pretty good bunch. They could have suggested hanging? 

Regards,
Richard

I did request a hanging, for the Captain if I recall correctly.  Something about he owns a Remington or some such.

Kevin

[ssb73q]

Hey Richard, I want to see a few pics of your 1851 conversion with the Howell cilinders.

Mark my word, I am going to slap together an 1851 conversion from a percussion model using either a Kirst or Howell cylinder.

Hi Scooby, sorry, but I only noticed your request for photos yesterday. I got the Pietta 1851s together for a conversion cylinder family portrait, see:



The top two are 38 Colt/38 special conversion, the next two .45 Colt conversions, and the bottom brasser a .22 conversion. All the conversion cylinders other than the .22 are Howell, the .22 is a Kirst.

I have also used that Kirst .22 conversion cylinder in the 1851 Yank snub, see:



Later this week I expect to have the Howell 38 Colt/38 Special conversion cylinder for my new engraved Uberti 1851 Navy. I'll post a photo of that conversion assuming that the Pietta's won't discriminate against the sole Uberti 1851. 

Regards,
Richard

Hi, the engraved Uberti 1851 with 38 Colt/38 Special conversion cylinder can now be added to the converted 1851 family, see:



Regards,
Richard

[Captainkirk]

Hi Mike, these guys are a pretty good bunch. They could have suggested hanging? 

Regards,
Richard

I did request a hanging, for the Captain if I recall correctly.  Something about he owns a Remington or some such.

Kevin

IIRC, my sentence was commuted due to owning 6 Remmies. I was deemed insane.

[StrawHat]

Hi Mike, these guys are a pretty good bunch. They could have suggested hanging? 

Regards,
Richard

I did request a hanging, for the Captain if I recall correctly.  Something about he owns a Remington or some such.

Kevin

IIRC, my sentence was commuted due to owning 6 Remmies. I was deemed insane.

Your being insane has nothing to do with what you own.  And it is only a stay of execution, I am still looking for 5 more ropes!

Kevin