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Title: 1851 Navy
Post by: mark1945 on July 01, 2015, 12:50:54 PM

I just got a 1851 Navy at an estate sale. with box ,papers unfired. Checking ser # 26498  it was made in 1978 model F1100. Are these Colts made in Italy and by who for Colt or did Colt make them?

Title: Re: 1851 Navy
Post by: PaleHawkDown on July 01, 2015, 01:58:12 PM

What markings are on it, or since it is in the box, what is the manufacturer or importer?

Title: Re: 1851 Navy
Post by: Fingers McGee on July 01, 2015, 02:27:31 PM

F series 2nd Generation Colt's were assembled by Iver Johnson in Middlesex New Jersey.  They were inspected, marketed, sold, warranted, and will letter by Colt's.

They are Colt's

Title: Re: 1851 Navy
Post by: mark1945 on July 01, 2015, 06:52:23 PM

Thanks for the info on my Colt I had heard some were made in Italy and some were not .

Title: Re: 1851 Navy
Post by: Fingers McGee on July 01, 2015, 08:33:13 PM

Not even the Signature series - that some call 3rd generation - Colt's were made in Italy.  They were made under license from Colt's in Brooklyn, New York.  But, they will not letter.

Title: Re: 1851 Navy
Post by: StrawHat on July 02, 2015, 03:40:48 AM

While they were not "Made In Italy", they were assembled, in the USA, with parts made in Italy.  That is often the source of confusion. 

Kevin

Title: Re: 1851 Navy
Post by: mark1945 on July 05, 2015, 06:09:09 PM

How much does it hurt the value of my 1851 if I shoot it ?

Title: Re: 1851 Navy
Post by: Captainkirk on July 05, 2015, 07:45:11 PM

Quote from: mark1945 on July 05, 2015, 06:09:09 PM

How much does it hurt the value of my 1851 if I shoot it ?

All depends. Some collectors will not buy a fired revolver; in fact, some will not buy it if it's been turned. Probably the most market value you would lose would be around $100-150.00. Not enough in my opinion to warrant wondering what it would be like to shoot it...
I don't intend on getting rid of any of mine, so let the next owner haggle it out. Me, I'm gonna shoot 'em. Of course, I don't own any 'real' Colts, either, so take it for face value.

Title: Re: 1851 Navy
Post by: Fingers McGee on July 05, 2015, 08:40:16 PM

Not having the box and papers pretty much makes it a non-collectible.  The deduct for a 100% condition 2nd Gen not having box and papers is between $100 & $150.  Firing it would deduct another $100 to $150 or more depending on overall condition.