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Title: ROA'S
Post by: 45 Dragoon on November 16, 2021, 07:25:57 PM
Awwwww look!!!!
 3 ROA'S  and no beauty rings !!!!  Lol!!

Mike


 
Title: Re: ROA'S
Post by: Captainkirk on November 16, 2021, 07:39:40 PM
Sure are purdy, Mike! :toast:
Title: Re: ROA'S
Post by: 45 Dragoon on November 16, 2021, 07:58:06 PM
Thanks Cap!! The top one rides along with me in the car! The other two  snooze in the safe .  .  .  another one is the "Mule" for the gated conversion !  Everybody has their job!!

Mike
Title: Re: ROA'S
Post by: ShotgunDave on November 17, 2021, 07:57:36 AM
If a brace is 2, what do ya call 3? A trace?

Awesome ROA's Mike. I can only imagine how nice those are to shoot, being warmed over by you!
Title: Re: ROA'S
Post by: Captainkirk on November 17, 2021, 08:14:35 AM
If a brace is 2, what do ya call 3? A trace?

"Well Hung"
Title: Re: ROA'S
Post by: Zulch on November 17, 2021, 11:11:29 AM
Very nice Mike!!!👍
Title: Re: ROA'S
Post by: 45 Dragoon on November 17, 2021, 03:16:28 PM
Thanks fellers!  They are pretty fun to fool with and I'm really " anxious " to get the gated one finalized!! I just can't spend the time needed while having customers to take care of!!  So, I'm not complaining mind you !!! Lol. It'll just be fun to not have to remove the cylinder each time.

Mike
Title: Re: ROA'S
Post by: AntiqueSledMan on November 18, 2021, 01:58:32 AM
Hello Mike,

I can't wait to see it.

AntiqueSledMan.
Title: Re: ROA'S
Post by: AlaskanGuy on November 18, 2021, 06:22:11 AM
they are truely beautiful.... and one thing I have on my bucket list that is not in my possession!!!!   :cowboypistol:

perhaps after christmas.... i may sell off some primers and just buy one....
Title: Re: ROA'S
Post by: Necessaryevil on November 18, 2021, 07:59:42 AM
WOW........Just WOW !!!! (jh

Are those .45 Colt conversion cylinders ?

I wish they were available in Spain, I'd have one for my ROA  in a heartbeat if they were.
Title: Re: ROA'S
Post by: 45 Dragoon on November 18, 2021, 08:51:59 AM
Thanks again guys!!
WOW........Just WOW !!!! (jh

Are those .45 Colt conversion cylinders ?

I wish they were available in Spain, I'd have one for my ROA  in a heartbeat if they were.

Yessir!! All my revolvers are 45C cartridge guns. And these. .  .  .    (are nut guns!!!)

Mike
Title: Re: ROA'S
Post by: Shootemup on November 18, 2021, 05:11:34 PM
Question on the ROA does the cylinder pin and the loading lever come out as one piece
Title: Re: ROA'S
Post by: 45 Dragoon on November 18, 2021, 06:52:27 PM
Yessir.

  It's also one of my main reasons for the gated conversion. The loading lever and pin combination can easily fall apart if it's fully removed. With a gate,  Nada problem!!

Mike
Title: Re: ROA'S
Post by: Bob Dwyer on May 03, 2022, 06:32:29 AM
I like the looks of these ROA's but am not familiar with them. What time period or replica are they suposed to represent?

Bob
Title: Re: ROA'S
Post by: 45 Dragoon on May 03, 2022, 12:15:14 PM
I like the looks of these ROA's but am not familiar with them. What time period or replica are they suposed to represent?

Bob

 Well, they represent the 1970's to the present  .  .   .  umm .     . they aren't a "reproduction" of anything  unless  you want to stretch the idea of what a "cap and ball era" version of a Blackhawk  would have been  (7+" 
  Bill liked the ROA so much  that he declared that as long as he was alive,  ROA's would be made!!  Sure enough, after his passing,  his son stopped production. Fortunately,  there's a Blue Million  of them out there so you can find one!!!
  It features a 3-screw Blackhawk  bloodline ( and was really a continuation of) and is actually what I pulled from for the coil spring action  conversions that I currently install in my customers revolvers  ( of all types : Remingtons, Colt open tops  and of course ROA's). So, reproduction of nothing  but instead,  an original!!!
  For me, the ability to convert them into cartridge guns with my action setup is a top achievement ( it's  almost identical to the  Freedom Arms action!)!!
  So, there ya go ! Lol

Mike
Title: Re: ROA'S
Post by: Zulch on May 03, 2022, 12:20:06 PM
I don't own one nor do I know much about them either Bob but the people that own them?? swear by them. Never heard a bad thing about them. On the contrary, I think they are even capable cooking your breakfast in the morning if you so desired.  (7+" 
Title: Re: ROA'S
Post by: 45 Dragoon on May 03, 2022, 01:55:13 PM
had eggs and bacon  this mornin  .  .  .  (7+"

Mike
Title: Re: ROA'S
Post by: Zulch on May 03, 2022, 02:01:49 PM
 (7+" I knew they could  (7& :-*
Title: Re: ROA'S
Post by: Necessaryevil on May 04, 2022, 07:43:17 AM
The best cap and ball revolver I have ever owned. With my 209 shotgun primer nipples it's as reliable as a cartridge revolver for a defensive piece.

Only downside is that due to the blued sights I can't shove it into the dishwasher to clean it.

I HATE cleaning guns.
Title: Re: ROA'S
Post by: Bob Dwyer on May 05, 2022, 07:09:06 AM
The best cap and ball revolver I have ever owned. With my 209 shotgun primer nipples it's as reliable as a cartridge revolver for a defensive piece.

Only downside is that due to the blued sights I can't shove it into the dishwasher to clean it.

I HATE cleaning guns.
So it sounds like the ROA is a gun unto itself and a replica of nothing, then?
Title: Re: ROA'S
Post by: Zulch on May 05, 2022, 07:16:19 AM
The best cap and ball revolver I have ever owned. With my 209 shotgun primer nipples it's as reliable as a cartridge revolver for a defensive piece.

Only downside is that due to the blued sights I can't shove it into the dishwasher to clean it.

I HATE cleaning guns.
So it sounds like the ROA is a gun unto itself and a replica of nothing, then?

Bob Dwyer. I took the liberty of snipping this information on the ROA. hope this is helpful and thank you, Z

"The Ruger Old Army is a black-powder percussion revolver introduced in 1972 by the Sturm, Ruger company and manufactured through 2008. Models were made with a 7.5" and a 5.5 inch barrel.
The Ruger Old Army revolver is unusual in that, unlike most percussion revolvers on the market, it was not based on a historical design, but was a modification of Ruger's Blackhawk model, which was itself based upon the cartridge-firing Colt Peacemaker.[2] The Old Army revolver accordingly incorporates many modern design features, though employing antiquated black-powder component loading.

This design was built around the Blackhawk, but it takes its styling cues from the Remington Model 1858 cap and ball pistol. This is due to the frame being longer in front to accommodate the loading lever and pivot pin. Earlier models listed as .44 caliber, later as .45, but all use a .457” round balls or .454” conical bullets of pure lead.[3]

Unlike the Blackhawk, the Old Army did not make use of Ruger's transfer bar safety; instead the revolver relied upon a series of safety notches between each chamber on the cylinder like some models of the remington/colt or other black powder revolvers of the mid-19th century had.[1]

The revolver was tested by loading each chamber to capacity with Bullseye smokeless powder and a lead ball. While this might result in catastrophic failure in other firearms, the Old Army proved to be strong enough to handle the pressure
Title: Re: ROA'S
Post by: Bob Dwyer on May 06, 2022, 09:05:15 AM
Thank you for that info Zilch. I learn a lot every time i vist here
Title: Re: ROA'S
Post by: Captainkirk on May 06, 2022, 10:22:26 AM
Bob, since the ROAs went out of production they have become stupid-expensive.
Title: Re: ROA'S
Post by: Zulch on May 06, 2022, 10:32:41 AM
Thank you for that info Zilch. I learn a lot every time i vist here

Bob, Sir, i am glad that was helpful and thank you for the comment. Z
Title: Re: ROA'S
Post by: Bob Dwyer on May 12, 2022, 12:05:34 PM
Bob, since the ROAs went out of production they have become stupid-expensive.

How stupid, Cap? :icon_scratch:
Title: Re: ROA'S
Post by: Clark Kent on May 12, 2022, 12:13:02 PM
My brother has a ROA in stainless. It also has fixed sights instead of the big adjustable type. I really enjoy shooting it when he brings it out.
Title: Re: ROA'S
Post by: Captainkirk on May 12, 2022, 12:49:42 PM
Bob, since the ROAs went out of production they have become stupid-expensive.

How stupid, Cap? :icon_scratch:

Like, starting used at $800 plus stupid.
Title: Re: ROA'S
Post by: Bishop Creek on May 12, 2022, 02:25:13 PM
My brother has a ROA in stainless. It also has fixed sights instead of the big adjustable type. I really enjoy shooting it when he brings it out.

I have two of them, one with 8" barrel and the other one with a 5 1/2" barrel.
Title: Re: ROA'S
Post by: Necessaryevil on May 12, 2022, 11:33:21 PM
Bob, since the ROAs went out of production they have become stupid-expensive.

How stupid, Cap? :icon_scratch:

Like, starting used at $800 plus stupid.

WOW, that's expensive. I paid 350€ for mine. Looks like I got a bargain then.
Title: Re: ROA'S
Post by: Necessaryevil on May 14, 2022, 09:55:29 AM
Just found this, looks like they are going for stupid money here in Spain too. Initially he was asking 900€ for it !

https://www.armas.es/foros/viewtopic.php?f=80&t=1129153 (https://www.armas.es/foros/viewtopic.php?f=80&t=1129153)
Title: Re: ROA'S
Post by: Zulch on May 15, 2022, 06:52:10 AM
Just found this, looks like they are going for stupid money here in Spain too. Initially he was asking 900€ for it !

https://www.armas.es/foros/viewtopic.php?f=80&t=1129153 (https://www.armas.es/foros/viewtopic.php?f=80&t=1129153)

NE, Glad you got yours when you did huh? Sounds like yours was more reasonably priced.
Title: Re: ROA'S
Post by: AntiqueSledMan on May 15, 2022, 09:18:57 AM
I fell in love with the Fixed Sight Model,
but they were already out of production by the time I ever knew they existed.
There was rumors about Ruger bringing them back, but I doubt that will happen.
They do bring a very good price, unfortunately I'll probably never own one.
I remember when I thought $350 was to much for a Vaquero, now look what they bring.

AntiqueSledMan.
Title: Re: ROA'S
Post by: Bob Dwyer on May 15, 2022, 06:21:20 PM
I really like the looks of the roa. I will be watching the auction sights for a bargain. I am due for a new gun i think.

Bob
Title: Re: ROA'S
Post by: ShotgunDave on May 15, 2022, 07:34:32 PM
I fell in love with the Fixed Sight Model,
but they were already out of production by the time I ever knew they existed.
There was rumors about Ruger bringing them back, but I doubt that will happen.
They do bring a very good price, unfortunately I'll probably never own one.
I remember when I thought $350 was to much for a Vaquero, now look what they bring.

AntiqueSledMan.

That's my favorite too ASM. It has the right look.
If I could find one I can afford, I'll have one. But I ain't holding my breath.
Title: Re: ROA'S
Post by: Clark Kent on May 15, 2022, 08:00:56 PM
My brother has a ROA in stainless. It also has fixed sights instead of the big adjustable type. I really enjoy shooting it when he brings it out.

I have two of them, one with 8" barrel and the other one with a 5 1/2" barrel.

This is exactly what my brother has. Except his has a black grip on it. Very good looking revolver.
Title: Re: ROA'S
Post by: Zulch on May 16, 2022, 07:03:56 AM
My brother has a ROA in stainless. It also has fixed sights instead of the big adjustable type. I really enjoy shooting it when he brings it out.

I have two of them, one with 8" barrel and the other one with a 5 1/2" barrel.

This is exactly what my brother has. Except his has a black grip on it. Very good looking revolver.
Clark Kent, maybe you can talk your brother into selling you his?  L@J  )l_
Title: Re: ROA'S
Post by: Necessaryevil on May 16, 2022, 12:28:58 PM
Just found this, looks like they are going for stupid money here in Spain too. Initially he was asking 900€ for it !

https://www.armas.es/foros/viewtopic.php?f=80&t=1129153 (https://www.armas.es/foros/viewtopic.php?f=80&t=1129153)

NE, Glad you got yours when you did huh? Sounds like yours was more reasonably priced.

Si Senor..............AbSoLutely
Title: Re: ROA'S
Post by: OldFrenchy on October 05, 2022, 09:44:25 PM
I bought my stainless ROA at the gun shop of Thomas Bland in London in 1975. It was one of the first ones manufactured in stainless steel. Even then restrictions on all handguns were severe in England, and I had to have the pistol transported to the airport where I was allowed to take it out of the country on my trip to France. The English customs officer who inspected the pistol before releasing it to me gave me a lecture on how guns were evil, they were only good for killing, and why would I want one? I pretty much ignored him but found out on my arrival in France that the Leftist creep had removed the bill of sale so I couldn't prove ownership.
French customs held the gun until I could get a replacement bill of sale from Thomas Bland.
I still have the gun, put some srag grips on her. Interesting that it has British proof marks on it like a London Colt.
Title: Re: ROA'S
Post by: Necessaryevil on October 09, 2022, 11:58:44 AM
Typical British Nanny state mentality.

Pathetic.

"I pretty much ignored him but found out on my arrival in France that the Leftist creep had removed the bill of sale so I couldn't prove ownership."

A Customs Officer STEALING a document ?

I do hope you submitted a written formal complaint to HM Customs ?
Title: Re: ROA'S
Post by: OldFrenchy on October 19, 2022, 09:58:07 AM
Typical British Nanny state mentality.

Pathetic.

"I pretty much ignored him but found out on my arrival in France that the Leftist creep had removed the bill of sale so I couldn't prove ownership."

A Customs Officer STEALING a document ?

I do hope you submitted a written formal complaint to HM Customs ?

Unfortunately I did not. I was young, and was simply focused on getting my revolver out of the hands of the French Custom officials. I recal how they would, with wide eyes, put tbeir fingers in the muzzle, astonished at the size of the .45 and talk of "le cowboy" 😂
I used to shoot it at the police range in Monaco. It would invariably stop all shooting, then bring laughter from the cops, and then silence when they saw the compact groups made with the gun at 25 meters. I could outscore the majority of those cops with the Ruger, much to their dismay, using 20grs of 3fg, cornmeal filler, and a greased felt wad.