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Title: ASM Dragoons
Post by: Zulch on January 11, 2022, 07:10:21 AM
Okay fellers. Just got these. A 1968 Replica Arms/ASM Model 2 and a 1989 CVA/ASM Model 3. I absolutely love these. These are my first ever Dragoons. They do need some cleaning.
Title: Re: ASM Dragoons
Post by: Hawg on January 11, 2022, 07:40:47 AM
Nice pistolas
Title: Re: ASM Dragoons
Post by: Zulch on January 11, 2022, 08:03:15 AM
Thank you Hawg. Interesting to me why are the wedge insert slots opposite? Did the Model 3 change the insert slot to the other side?
Title: Re: ASM Dragoons
Post by: Miguel Loco on January 11, 2022, 08:08:42 AM
Nice! I believe the model 3 finally got it right with the wedge.... :).  Looks like a Model 2 and 3?
Title: Re: ASM Dragoons
Post by: Zulch on January 11, 2022, 08:15:57 AM
Nice! I believe the model 3 finally got it right with the wedge.... :).  Looks like a Model 2 and 3?
Mick. Thank you!! yes, a model 2 & 3. Dang I'm excited about them.
Title: Re: ASM Dragoons
Post by: Hawg on January 11, 2022, 08:55:05 AM
Thank you Hawg. Interesting to me why are the wedge insert slots opposite? Did the Model 3 change the insert slot to the other side?

I don't know why ASM switched sides. All model Colt dragoons go in from the left side.
Title: Re: ASM Dragoons
Post by: Captainkirk on January 11, 2022, 09:33:16 AM
Wickedly beautiful, Tim! You scored BIG TIME on both of those! :usa-flag-89:
Title: Re: ASM Dragoons
Post by: ShotgunDave on January 11, 2022, 09:35:39 AM
You done good on those Tim. They are indeed beautiful.

Not sure why ASM put some of the wedges in backwards. Maybe Luigi thought he was making a Walker.
Title: Re: ASM Dragoons
Post by: 45 Dragoon on January 11, 2022, 09:40:03 AM
 (7+"
Yep, they should all go in from the left Sept Fer the Walker.
 ( don't let that discourage you though).

Oh ,  .  .  . they got short arbors  though  !!  (7+"

Mike
Title: Re: ASM Dragoons
Post by: Zulch on January 11, 2022, 09:51:07 AM
Thanks fellers for the comments and compliments. Haven’t observed the innards yet but will when I get to cleaning the babies up. I got a lot of short arbors Mike 😬 . Geez.
Title: Re: ASM Dragoons
Post by: G Dog on January 11, 2022, 12:13:52 PM
Family Values Pak - two at a time.  You're a fine example for all of us, Z.  Those are beauties.  Good pics, too.  Congratulations and well done.    :happy-thumbs-up-050:
Title: Re: ASM Dragoons
Post by: Woodsrunner79 on January 11, 2022, 12:20:46 PM
Well done Zulch. Those are prurdy! Now you gotta get the horse to lug them around v (7+"
Title: Re: ASM Dragoons
Post by: Zulch on January 11, 2022, 12:44:34 PM
Family Values Pak - two at a time.  You're a fine example for all of us, Z.  Those are beauties.  Good pics, too.  Congratulations and well done.    :happy-thumbs-up-050:

G thanks very much. Family Value Pack. I like that :-)
Title: Re: ASM Dragoons
Post by: Zulch on January 11, 2022, 12:46:57 PM
Well done Zulch. Those are prurdy! Now you gotta get the horse to lug them around v (7+"

Woodsrunner79...thanks man. I appreciate your comment. You mean I gotta git a hoss too?!?! Now where on earth will I hide a hoss? Hmmmm? 
Title: Re: ASM Dragoons
Post by: Miguel Loco on January 11, 2022, 02:10:01 PM
Thank you Hawg. Interesting to me why are the wedge insert slots opposite? Did the Model 3 change the insert slot to the other side?

I don't know why ASM switched sides. All model Colt dragoons go in from the left side.

Learned something else from you......thanks!
Title: Re: ASM Dragoons
Post by: Woodsrunner79 on January 11, 2022, 02:20:26 PM
Zulch- Hiding a horse is easy. It's hiding the barn, feed and various paraphernalia that come with it that becomes tricky.
Title: Re: ASM Dragoons
Post by: Sooty Barrels on January 11, 2022, 03:29:12 PM
  :usa-flag-89: Zulch  Super nice guns
Title: Re: ASM Dragoons
Post by: Zulch on January 11, 2022, 03:33:59 PM
Sooty!!!??? Where ya been!? Good to hear from you😁 thank you my friend. I’m in love with my guns👍  Whatcha been up too?
Title: Re: ASM Dragoons
Post by: Zulch on January 11, 2022, 03:35:18 PM
Zulch- Hiding a horse is easy. It's hiding the barn, feed and various paraphernalia that come with it that becomes tricky.
Now why didn’t I think of that woodsrunner?  A barn!! A novel idea! I just need the property now🤔🤔
Title: Re: ASM Dragoons
Post by: Zulch on January 11, 2022, 03:39:17 PM
Now I know good and well there’s a lot of folks out there been enjoying their Dragoons for years! Tell ol zulch anything I need to know about these horse pistols ?  I am proud to have them actually more than any I own. I welcome any comments and would appreciate more knowledgeable folks helping me out . Thank you all for your kind remarks.
Title: Re: ASM Dragoons
Post by: Captainkirk on January 11, 2022, 04:35:01 PM
Pfft. Mr. Josey Wales didn't need no steenking horse. And he had a brace of 'em (Walkers)

"Now, spit..."-Lone Watie
Title: Re: ASM Dragoons
Post by: G Dog on January 11, 2022, 07:05:59 PM

"I didn't surrender, but they took my horse and made him surrender."

                                                                     -- Lone Watie


Fun fact:  In the book Lonesome Dove by Larry McMurtry, it's clearly stated that Gus McCray carried a Colt's Dragoon.

"Makes a hole like a tunnel, son."
Title: Re: ASM Dragoons
Post by: Shootemup on January 11, 2022, 10:57:01 PM
Congratulations  on your double  purchase Zulch they look great. Are you going to be shooting them  one in the right hand and one in the left hand  at the same time? Careful that you don't fall on your face if you do  (7+" (7+"
Title: Re: ASM Dragoons
Post by: Hawg on January 11, 2022, 11:05:10 PM
Congratulations  on your double  purchase Zulch they look great. Are you going to be shooting them  one in the right hand and one in the left hand  at the same time? Careful that you don't fall on your face if you do  (7+" (7+"

They gonna knock him flat on his butt. (7+"
Title: Re: ASM Dragoons
Post by: Zulch on January 12, 2022, 05:50:29 AM
Pfft. Mr. Josey Wales didn't need no steenking horse. And he had a brace of 'em (Walkers)

"Now, spit..."-Lone Watie

 :funny:
Title: Re: ASM Dragoons
Post by: Zulch on January 12, 2022, 05:53:31 AM
Congratulations  on your double  purchase Zulch they look great. Are you going to be shooting them  one in the right hand and one in the left hand  at the same time? Careful that you don't fall on your face if you do  (7+" (7+"

Thank you Shootemup! I sure hope to shoot em one after the other sequentially but it sounds like Hawg thinks I might bust my arse???  :-[ I will let you know though for sure.  :cowboypistol:
Title: Re: ASM Dragoons
Post by: Hawg on January 12, 2022, 06:34:05 AM
Congratulations  on your double  purchase Zulch they look great. Are you going to be shooting them  one in the right hand and one in the left hand  at the same time? Careful that you don't fall on your face if you do  (7+" (7+"

Thank you Shootemup! I sure hope to shoot em one after the other sequentially but it sounds like Hawg thinks I might bust my arse???  :-[ I will let you know though for sure.  :cowboypistol:

Newtons third law says so lol
Title: Re: ASM Dragoons
Post by: Zulch on January 12, 2022, 07:06:17 AM
Congratulations  on your double  purchase Zulch they look great. Are you going to be shooting them  one in the right hand and one in the left hand  at the same time? Careful that you don't fall on your face if you do  (7+" (7+"

Thank you Shootemup! I sure hope to shoot em one after the other sequentially but it sounds like Hawg thinks I might bust my arse???  :-[ I will let you know though for sure.  :cowboypistol:

Newtons third law says so lol
 :icon_scratch:


Title: Re: ASM Dragoons
Post by: Hawg on January 12, 2022, 07:17:06 AM
Congratulations  on your double  purchase Zulch they look great. Are you going to be shooting them  one in the right hand and one in the left hand  at the same time? Careful that you don't fall on your face if you do  (7+" (7+"

Thank you Shootemup! I sure hope to shoot em one after the other sequentially but it sounds like Hawg thinks I might bust my arse???  :-[ I will let you know though for sure.  :cowboypistol:

Newtons third law says so lol
:icon_scratch:

For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. Therefore when you fire those cannons the recoil gonna put you on yo arse. (7+" (7+" (7+"
Title: Re: ASM Dragoons
Post by: Dellbert on January 12, 2022, 11:13:54 AM
I have a nice 1860 that needs a new wedge but can't find one any where. Do any of you know where I can find one?
Title: Re: ASM Dragoons
Post by: Zulch on January 12, 2022, 11:43:04 AM
I have a nice 1860 that needs a new wedge but can't find one any where. Do any of you know where I can find one?

Delbert, Hi. Who made the 1860? Pietta, Uberti, ASM ? You will need to know that first. Thanks, Tim
Title: Re: ASM Dragoons
Post by: Zulch on January 12, 2022, 11:46:51 AM
Delbert, Hi again. I have bought from all of the three links below: Hope this helps. Tim

https://www.dixiegunworks.com/
https://taylorsfirearms.com/accessories/parts/pietta-parts/pietta-1860-army-revolver-1861-navy-revolver-parts-sch.html
https://www.vtigunparts.com/store/
 
Title: Re: ASM Dragoons
Post by: G Dog on January 12, 2022, 12:21:17 PM
Hi Delbert.  I buy from VTI Gun Parts.   
Title: Re: ASM Dragoons
Post by: DragoonRick on January 13, 2022, 06:25:46 AM
I’m glad to see your purchase, Zulch. My two #2 Dragoons are  ASM from the same time period.  Truly remarkable arms. 
    Congratulations in your find. They will do the fifty yard target with ease.
 
Title: Re: ASM Dragoons
Post by: Zulch on January 13, 2022, 06:37:48 AM
Dragoon Rick. Thank you Sir! That’s very good to know👍 Please feel free to post a picture of your Dragoons😁👍 thanks again
Title: Re: ASM Dragoons
Post by: Marshal Will on January 13, 2022, 08:08:44 AM
Those are beautiful. Congrats on the new irons. Thanks for all the photos.
Title: Re: ASM Dragoons
Post by: Zulch on January 13, 2022, 08:31:23 AM
Yes I agree Marshall…. Beautiful guns you got there Rick😁👍
Title: Re: ASM Dragoons
Post by: ShotgunDave on January 13, 2022, 09:43:20 AM
Nice iron there Rick!

Dragoons are my favorite.
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Post by: DragoonRick on January 13, 2022, 10:23:55 AM
 I don’t recall how I came across these Dragoons. I’ve had em several years now.  I’ve read a couple of articles referring to the “Mighty Dragoons”  and so they are. Any of you Colt lovers will really enjoy your Dragoons.

I was at a local range last year shooting various hand guns.  Most shooters were using the popular 9 mm.
Fellow was at the far end of the pistol line and I was at the other end. I had a full charge!  I fired and the guy at the other end said “I felt that all the way down here!”  YesThe mighty dragoon.
Title: Re: ASM Dragoons
Post by: Zulch on January 13, 2022, 10:43:53 AM
Wow!! That’s a great story Rick thanks for sharing.  :usa-flag-89:
Title: Re: ASM Dragoons
Post by: DragoonRick on January 13, 2022, 11:35:30 AM
Zulch,
  Your new Dragoons are really classy l would like to hear how they shoot.

I’ve used 35 to 50 gr, loads l accept that these ASM Dragoons are stronger than original.  I don’t get to shoot a lot, but usually use 40 gr load under a round ball .454 diameter.  Also use a wonder wad.  The cap and ball revolver is for patient shooters.

Rick
Title: Re: ASM Dragoons
Post by: Zulch on January 13, 2022, 12:03:02 PM
Zulch,
  Your new Dragoons are really classy l would like to hear how they shoot.

I’ve used 35 to 50 gr, loads l accept that these ASM Dragoons are stronger than original.  I don’t get to shoot a lot, but usually use 40 gr load under a round ball .454 diameter.  Also use a wonder wad.  The cap and ball revolver is for patient shooters.

Rick
Rick, I will be happy to post after I fire these guns. I appreciate your posting loads that you've used. Thank you very much for your comments. 
Title: Re: ASM Dragoons
Post by: Hawg on January 13, 2022, 12:12:31 PM
I had a Uberti 3rd model with the vertical latch. The lever would drop with anything over 35 grains of powder. It never was my favorite so I sold it.
Title: Re: ASM Dragoons
Post by: Captainkirk on January 13, 2022, 12:46:43 PM
I had a Uberti 3rd model with the vertical latch. The lever would drop with anything over 35 grains of powder. It never was my favorite so I sold it.
All mine do, including the Walker. I've adapted.
Title: Re: ASM Dragoons
Post by: ShotgunDave on January 13, 2022, 03:27:33 PM
The 3rd Model that I had, with the vertical latch, dropped the lever on every shot. The 3rd Model that I currently own, has the horizontal latch. It never drops the never, no matter how much powder I cram into it.