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Title: Giving some serious thought to an original 1860 army
Post by: AR. Hillbilly on July 21, 2022, 01:06:43 PM
It’s at a store I went to. Looks to be in very nice condition and seems to function. They’re asking $2250.00
Just curious if that’s close on value.
I’ve seen Navy’s for a touch more.
Title: Re: Giving some serious thought to an original 1860 army
Post by: Hawg on July 21, 2022, 01:18:10 PM
Maybe for a super duper nice one with 90% original bluing.
Title: Re: Giving some serious thought to an original 1860 army
Post by: Zulch on July 21, 2022, 01:43:13 PM
It’s at a store I went to. Looks to be in very nice condition and seems to function. They’re asking $2250.00
Just curious if that’s close on value.
I’ve seen Navy’s for a touch more.
Yikes :-X  (7+"  AR. Sounds nice.  :-* Are you into re-enactment? Seems like I remember you mentioning that once.
Title: Re: Giving some serious thought to an original 1860 army
Post by: AR. Hillbilly on July 21, 2022, 03:33:26 PM
It’s at a store I went to. Looks to be in very nice condition and seems to function. They’re asking $2250.00
Just curious if that’s close on value.
I’ve seen Navy’s for a touch more.
Yikes :-X  (7+"  AR. Sounds nice.  :-* Are you into re-enactment? Seems like I remember you mentioning that once.
Zulch I’m not so much a reenactor but belong to a group that works to preserve history.
I might be in your back yard this weekend seeking treasure.
Can’t remember where you live?
Title: Re: Giving some serious thought to an original 1860 army
Post by: Zulch on July 21, 2022, 03:54:50 PM
AR. That's great that you are into preserving history. I'm located on the border of Alabama and Georgia near Ft. Benning. :usa-flag-89:   less than 2 hours from Andersonville.  :-* (west of). Columbus to be exact. What brings you this way? History? Gun show?
Title: Re: Giving some serious thought to an original 1860 army
Post by: AR. Hillbilly on July 21, 2022, 04:08:29 PM
AR. That's great that you are into preserving history. I'm located on the border of Alabama and Georgia near Ft. Benning. :usa-flag-89:   less than 2 hours from Andersonville.  :-* (west of). Columbus to be exact. What brings you this way? History? Gun show?
That’s what I thought. We’ve spent the last few days between Chattanooga and Kennesaw.
We’re here for a convention but getting to run around a lot
Title: Re: Giving some serious thought to an original 1860 army
Post by: Racing on July 22, 2022, 04:16:27 AM
As one of the souls that primarly work on original guns then..

The Colts in general have jumped. Not a 100.. try 500 to a 1000. Then again, the really nice guns have always been expensive.

On the Colts more specific then.
They´re due material choice often more run down than many of the others. Often worn to a different level. End shake of cylinder is more often than not to the point where the gun shouldn´t be used any more before major surgery.
Timing wise, off and on i´d say. A crap game just about.

However. As long as we´re talking barrel and cylinder it can be corrected. Yes, that and of course the brass parts. Frame injury though, like cracks or whatever.. walk away.

Ask to have the gun apart. It´s just getting the wedge out and removing the barrel. Hold the barrel up vs a light source and check the rifling. In essence and old Army or 51/61 Navy if present at all that is a good thing.
Title: Re: Giving some serious thought to an original 1860 army
Post by: Racing on July 22, 2022, 04:21:06 AM
FWIW.
Barrels on them can be welded up.

End shake is very often off to the point where it needs to be handled.

(https://i.postimg.cc/1zXxsPcx/24.jpg)

This the entry cone of a 3d model Dragoon i did semi recently. End shake back to factory stock. In essence you weld the area up with a TIG welder and the lowliest TIG rod you can get your hands on.
Then reshape the thing on the lathe to hearts desire. This works very very well and it is more often than not what keeps an old Colt out of business thus the job done it´ll become as shootable as it once was again.

Yeah. I´ll get to making a post on the Dragoon too..
Title: Re: Giving some serious thought to an original 1860 army
Post by: Sooty Barrels on July 22, 2022, 04:54:37 AM
Racing, always enjoy seeing your post  :-*
Title: Re: Giving some serious thought to an original 1860 army
Post by: Sooty Barrels on July 22, 2022, 04:58:29 AM
Looking forward to seeing the post on the Dragoon  (7&
Title: Re: Giving some serious thought to an original 1860 army
Post by: Hawg on July 22, 2022, 05:11:01 AM
Well crap they really have gone way up in price. It wasn't that long ago you could get a decent shooter for 900.00.
Title: Re: Giving some serious thought to an original 1860 army
Post by: Len on July 22, 2022, 11:41:19 AM
Hi AR,
if the gun doesn't need addressing what Racing mentioned, $2,250 prolly is a decent price, otherwise think twice.
Title: Re: Giving some serious thought to an original 1860 army
Post by: Racing on August 01, 2022, 04:17:37 PM
I agree 100 with Len on this one.

Plz keep in mind that someone talented enough to reset end shake in the manner described, NOT a job for the novice or faint of heart.
Ergo, expect to fork a bunch of bills over to have it done.
Title: Re: Giving some serious thought to an original 1860 army
Post by: 45 Dragoon on August 01, 2022, 04:48:27 PM
I'd be interested to know what "factory  endshake" is .

Mike