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Title: BP. loads in a modern shot gun.
Post by: toot on February 07, 2023, 09:56:45 AM
does any one shoot BP, brass hulls in there modern fluid steel barreled shot guns? just courious?
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Post by: Captainkirk on February 07, 2023, 10:00:07 AM
does any one shoot BP, brass hulls in there modern fluid steel barreled shot guns? just courious?

There were a few members in the past that did, IIRC. Have not seen them around lately.
Title: Re: BP. loads in a modern shot gun.
Post by: ShotgunDave on February 07, 2023, 11:40:19 AM
Well, it's not a new gun but it is modern and it has fluid steel barrels. My Dad's old Stevens SxS. The kids and I just took it out a couple weeks ago. Here I am shooting brass hulls loaded with 70gn of FFg. Works just fine.


(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52675266701_59f660304e_z.jpg)
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Post by: Zulch on February 07, 2023, 11:42:36 AM
What a killer picture Dave. Man that is nice.
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Post by: ShotgunDave on February 07, 2023, 11:44:18 AM
Thanks Tim.
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Post by: Captainkirk on February 07, 2023, 11:47:00 AM
What a killer picture Dave. Man that is nice.

Looks like Elmer Fudd!
(jk, Dave! Good on you for at least shooting!) :usa-flag-89:
Title: Re: BP. loads in a modern shot gun.
Post by: ShotgunDave on February 07, 2023, 11:51:44 AM
What a killer picture Dave. Man that is nice.

Looks like Elmer Fudd!
(jk, Dave! Good on you for at least shooting!) :usa-flag-89:


HA!!! You're right!!!!!  :lol-049: :lol-049: :lol-049:


Now where's dat waskwally wabbit?!?!   (l^
Title: Re: BP. loads in a modern shot gun.
Post by: Hawg on February 07, 2023, 01:18:00 PM
Not brass but I reload plastic hulls with bp and roll crimp and my shotguns are not exactly modern but some of them are fluid steel. I only shoot them in SXS's and my 1887 Winchester
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Post by: Navy Six on February 07, 2023, 01:25:25 PM
A couple of my Cowboy Shooting friends use modern doubles with black powder in brass hulls. No problem when using correct size wads, etc.
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Post by: Marshal Will on February 07, 2023, 04:52:03 PM
Cool pic, Dave. Yep. 70 grains does do the trick, eh?
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Post by: ShotgunDave on February 08, 2023, 08:27:48 AM
Cool pic, Dave. Yep. 70 grains does do the trick, eh?

Yessir. And an ounce of #8's.
Title: Re: BP. loads in a modern shot gun.
Post by: Marshal Will on February 08, 2023, 11:08:53 AM
Cool pic, Dave. Yep. 70 grains does do the trick, eh?

Yessir. And an ounce of #8's.
Thanks. That sounds like a fun load.

My cousin used to shoot a 10 ga double with BP in brass shells at CAS matches. I think he put a little more than that in there. It was great fun on the firing line. Lots of boom and smoke.  :-H
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Post by: Dave Shooter on February 09, 2023, 12:09:48 PM
Story that a late friend used to tell:  At a Tuesday night trap shoot at a local gun club one of the good ole boys managed to slip a BP shell into another guy's shell bag as a gag.  The shooter was using a Remington  1100 gas operated semi auto.  When the BP shell got touched off, the reults were......quite exciting.  I would have loved to have seen it.   :scared:
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Post by: Captainkirk on February 09, 2023, 12:40:47 PM
Story that a late friend used to tell:  At a Tuesday night trap shoot at a local gun club one of the good ole boys...

This is where the saying "Hold my beer" originated...

...managed to slip a BP shell into another guy's shell bag as a gag...

"Gags" on the shooting range. What fun.

The shooter was using a Remington  1100 gas operated semi auto.  When the BP shell got touched off, the reults were......quite exciting. 

Not to disparage your post Dave, ('cuz I'll bet it was funny to watch!) but the RO should have suspended Bubba's range privileges immediately, and the guy with the 1100 should have unfriended Bubba permanently. Right after punching him in the nose.
I have zero tolerance for stupid pet tricks, especially involving firearms. I'll bet there was a boat load of cleaning to do on that 1100, especially the gas works. And as the owner, I would have found no humor whatsoever in that escapade.
Title: Re: BP. loads in a modern shot gun.
Post by: Dellbert on February 10, 2023, 11:32:04 PM
I still have my dads old 12ga double sxs that a couple folks have told me I should start using lite loads in. Do you guys thank bp would be a good way to bring that pressure down from smokeless powder loads? Oh  ShotgunDave that is one cool fire breathing pic you put up there. Even with just wadding you could sit the bad guys butt on fire. 
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Post by: Hawg on February 11, 2023, 01:23:32 AM
Recoil with bp would be reduced.
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Post by: Dave Shooter on February 11, 2023, 04:59:12 AM
I still have my dads old 12ga double sxs that a couple folks have told me I should start using lite loads in. Do you guys thank bp would be a good way to bring that pressure down from smokeless powder loads? Oh  ShotgunDave that is one cool fire breathing pic you put up there. Even with just wadding you could sit the bad guys butt on fire.

BP loads would be one way to keep pressures down.  There is also factory tested low pressure smokeless loads.  Hodgdon published some of them a few years back in one their annuals.  IIRC, some were down around 6,000 psi.  Likely won't cycle a semi auto, but perfect for being kind to an older double.
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Post by: Marshal Will on February 11, 2023, 06:45:05 AM
When I was a kid, I bought an old Parker 12 Ga SxS with Damascus barrels. It was beautifully engraved with beautiful scrolled hammers. I was advised at that time to shoot only light loads in it because BP being corrosive could have eaten between the layers of bonded steel and you'd never be able to tell until it blew up. If I had that shotgun today, I'd keep it as a collectible and never fire it with any loads at all. If yours has Damascus barrels, maybe you might want to set it aside as an heirloom and enjoy that aspect of it. If it has modern barrels, then low pressure loads like Dave mentioned might be a good idea. If it's at all questionable, it might be best to just keep it unused and play it safe.
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Post by: ShotgunDave on February 11, 2023, 10:33:04 AM
I still have my dads old 12ga double sxs that a couple folks have told me I should start using lite loads in. Do you guys thank bp would be a good way to bring that pressure down from smokeless powder loads? Oh  ShotgunDave that is one cool fire breathing pic you put up there. Even with just wadding you could sit the bad guys butt on fire.

Thanks Dellbert. I always try to "catch the fire" when the kids and I go shooting. They always make great pictures.
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Post by: Hawg on February 11, 2023, 11:05:20 AM
When I was a kid, I bought an old Parker 12 Ga SxS with Damascus barrels. It was beautifully engraved with beautiful scrolled hammers. I was advised at that time to shoot only light loads in it because BP being corrosive could have eaten between the layers of bonded steel and you'd never be able to tell until it blew up. If I had that shotgun today, I'd keep it as a collectible and never fire it with any loads at all. If yours has Damascus barrels, maybe you might want to set it aside as an heirloom and enjoy that aspect of it. If it has modern barrels, then low pressure loads like Dave mentioned might be a good idea. If it's at all questionable, it might be best to just keep it unused and play it safe.

I've got an 1850ish Belgian made SXS 12 gauge with a fancy carved stock. I've got a Belgian made SXS Lancaster 12 gauge. I shoot both of them.
Title: Re: BP. loads in a modern shot gun.
Post by: Captainkirk on February 11, 2023, 06:49:35 PM
Do you guys thank bp would be a good way to bring that pressure down from smokeless powder loads?

I would think so, yes.
Title: Re: BP. loads in a modern shot gun.
Post by: toot on March 12, 2023, 04:14:36 AM
Well, it's not a new gun but it is modern and it has fluid steel barrels. My Dad's old Stevens SxS. The kids and I just took it out a couple weeks ago. Here I am shooting brass hulls loaded with 70gn of FFg. Works just fine.


(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52675266701_59f660304e_z.jpg)
   way to go! what a beautiful shot caught at the moment of firing!
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Post by: Zulch on March 12, 2023, 05:26:30 AM
meh....probably used photoshop L@J
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Post by: ShotgunDave on March 14, 2023, 09:30:42 AM
Thanks toot!

Photoshop? I can barely work the camera on the phone! And you think I can edit with Photoshop?   :lol-049:
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Post by: Zulch on March 14, 2023, 12:59:06 PM
an then one day he was shootin' at some food...and up through the ground came a bubbling crude... L@J
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Post by: Hawg on March 14, 2023, 02:36:47 PM
an then one day he was shootin' at some food.

With his Kentucky trapdoor.  (7+" (7+" (7+" (7+"
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Post by: ShotgunDave on March 15, 2023, 09:23:40 AM
...and up through the ground came a bubbling crude... L@J

We always sang that line different when I was a kid....

".....and up from the ground came Elly Mae nude....."


You're singing it right now, aren't you?    :lol-049:
Title: Re: BP. loads in a modern shot gun.
Post by: Marshal Will on March 15, 2023, 10:08:36 AM
...and up through the ground came a bubbling crude... L@J

We always sang that line different when I was a kid....

".....and up from the ground came Elly Mae nude....."


You're singing it right now, aren't you?    :lol-049:
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