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Title: Made a deal
Post by: mike116 on June 25, 2023, 11:46:13 AM
Yesterday a guy showed up wanting to trade these two 2nd gen Colt revolvers for some leather work.    We worked out some details and it looks like I will own both an 1851 and an 1860 F series 2nd gen revolver in a few weeks.

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Both are unfired but the '51 Navy has a couple scratches on the grips.   The '60 Army is like brand new.  No boxes or paperwork for either one.
Title: Re: Made a deal
Post by: Marshal Will on June 25, 2023, 12:28:22 PM
Outstanding deal, Mike. Trades are a good thing to do. The 1851 has a square back trigger guard. Might be a bit tight on your finger but they are beautiful. Congrats.
Title: Re: Made a deal
Post by: Hawg on June 25, 2023, 12:55:17 PM
Cool beans!!!!
Title: Re: Made a deal
Post by: Bishop Creek on June 25, 2023, 03:24:57 PM
Mike, does that 1860 Army have a "US" under the "Colt's Patent" on the frame? If so, kind of rare, they didn't make very many of the 2nd Gen Army models that way. I had one once but regrettably sold it a number of years ago.
Title: Re: Made a deal
Post by: Zulch on June 25, 2023, 03:43:33 PM
Way to go Mike!! 👍👍
Title: Re: Made a deal
Post by: mike116 on June 25, 2023, 05:54:33 PM
Mike, does that 1860 Army have a "US" under the "Colt's Patent" on the frame? If so, kind of rare, they didn't make very many of the 2nd Gen Army models that way. I had one once but regrettably sold it a number of years ago.

Yes BC,  it does have a "US" under the COLT'S "PATENT" stamp.    Thanks for bringing it to my attention.   I'll have do some research.
Title: Re: Made a deal
Post by: Captainkirk on June 25, 2023, 05:56:20 PM
"Good...trade?" (Dances With Wolves)
Yeah, I'd call it that, and more.  (7&
Title: Re: Made a deal
Post by: Clydesdale4x4 on June 25, 2023, 08:19:05 PM
"Good...trade?" (Dances With Wolves)
Yeah, I'd call it that, and more.  (7&


I've shot on that set. Very cool thing they left behind:

https://photos.app.goo.gl/kmfBmnNxBrc3TyTL6 (https://photos.app.goo.gl/kmfBmnNxBrc3TyTL6)
Title: Re: Made a deal
Post by: G Dog on June 25, 2023, 08:28:17 PM
https://youtu.be/jbd1trNz9bY
Title: Re: Made a deal
Post by: Clydesdale4x4 on June 25, 2023, 09:01:48 PM
"Good...trade?" (Dances With Wolves)
Yeah, I'd call it that, and more.  (7&


I've shot on that set. Very cool thing they left behind:

https://photos.app.goo.gl/kmfBmnNxBrc3TyTL6 (https://photos.app.goo.gl/kmfBmnNxBrc3TyTL6)

Adding to that album tonight. Using the gear I had then to shoot this movie set,  was like using a Cap and ball .45 to go hunting Elk, (and NOT a Walker) as far as the shots I was getting. Plausible, but not practical. Lightroom has introduced some AI tools, that are making up for what I lacked in light sensitivity. Should be cool.
Title: Re: Made a deal
Post by: 45 Dragoon on June 26, 2023, 07:47:35 AM
Good deal Mike!!
 
Lotsa times a "trade" makes sense!! I got my 5th ROA that way!

Mike
Title: Re: Made a deal
Post by: Len on June 26, 2023, 12:02:22 PM
Looks like a great deal there, Mike.
Which means you're going to give something awesome in return.
I'm terribly curious as to what.
Title: Re: Made a deal
Post by: Navy Six on June 26, 2023, 01:17:20 PM
Looks good Mike, I hope you enjoy the new guns! I have a pair of Uberti 51 Navies with the squareback trigger guards, and I prefer them when shooting one handed "duelist" style but like the oval guards if using two hands. Either way, congrats on the trade.
Title: Re: Made a deal
Post by: ShotgunDave on June 28, 2023, 08:49:10 AM
Nice trade Mike. I always trade when I can. Sometimes I prefer it to cash.
Title: Re: Made a deal
Post by: Miguel Loco on June 28, 2023, 09:42:52 AM
That's a great deal Mike! I bet you're smilin'!!!!
Title: Re: Made a deal
Post by: mike116 on August 18, 2023, 07:08:33 PM
A couple months ago I made the trade deal on the 2nd gen 1860 Army and 1851 Navy.    The customer picked up the rig and I'm now officially the owner of the 2nd gen Colts.
Here's the Rig I made for the deal.   Looks like we are both happy with the deal.

Ten Cartridge belt with removable bandolier strap, crossdraw holster for 6 inch Freedom Arms 45 Colt revolver, and a standard holster for a 7 1/2 inch Freedom Arms 454 Casull revolver.   All of it lined with calfskin.

Probably looks familiar because I've made several sets that look similar.   This color and style have been popular for a couple years now.

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Title: Re: Made a deal
Post by: Clydesdale4x4 on August 18, 2023, 08:39:41 PM
Beautiful Work as always.
Title: Re: Made a deal
Post by: Captainkirk on August 18, 2023, 09:44:16 PM
Wow! What a gorgeous rig! You outdid yourself, Mike!
Title: Re: Made a deal
Post by: Marshal Will on August 18, 2023, 09:55:40 PM
Man, that's fine work. Outstanding rig. Love the color, too. Congrats on the Colts. May you get good service for a long time out of them.
Title: Re: Made a deal
Post by: Zulch on August 19, 2023, 05:10:51 AM
WOW!! Very nice Mike. Educate me someone. I don't know much about all the different belts and purposes of some of the "rigs"? Please explain the bandolier function and purpose? I understand that it is removable as you've said. Why would someone one want it and or not want it? I really don't know but would like to know, bottom line. Thank you
Title: Re: Made a deal
Post by: Marshal Will on August 19, 2023, 06:53:13 AM
The purpose of the bandolier belt is to keep the weight of the guns from tweaking your lower back to one side and shift it to your shoulders where it will be more vertical and much more comfortable.
Title: Re: Made a deal
Post by: Zulch on August 19, 2023, 06:57:30 AM
The purpose of the bandolier belt is to keep the weight of the guns from tweaking your lower back to one side and shift it to your shoulders where it will be more vertical and much more comfortable.
Thank you Marshal. Almost like suspenders hold up your trousers f you will?
Title: Re: Made a deal
Post by: Marshal Will on August 19, 2023, 07:02:16 AM
The purpose of the bandolier belt is to keep the weight of the guns from tweaking your lower back to one side and shift it to your shoulders where it will be more vertical and much more comfortable.
Thank you Marshal. Almost like suspenders hold up your trousers f you will?
Yeah, but hopefully your trousers don't weigh as much as a couple 7-1/2" pistols.
Title: Re: Made a deal
Post by: mike116 on August 19, 2023, 03:36:02 PM
The Freedom Arms pistols are stainless steel and heavier than most revolvers.   The bandolier helps support the weight of the two revolvers.   
Title: Re: Made a deal
Post by: Marshal Will on August 19, 2023, 04:38:42 PM
The Freedom Arms pistols are stainless steel and heavier than most revolvers.   The bandolier helps support the weight of the two revolvers.
They're heftier than Rugers, aren't they?
Title: Re: Made a deal
Post by: mike116 on August 19, 2023, 05:47:39 PM
The Freedom Arms pistols are stainless steel and heavier than most revolvers.   The bandolier helps support the weight of the two revolvers.
They're heftier than Rugers, aren't they?
Yes Sir,  by a decent degree I'd say.   The frames are close in size to a Ruger Blackhawk but barrels are bigger.
Title: Re: Made a deal
Post by: Marshal Will on August 19, 2023, 09:06:49 PM
The Freedom Arms pistols are stainless steel and heavier than most revolvers.   The bandolier helps support the weight of the two revolvers.
They're heftier than Rugers, aren't they?
Yes Sir,  by a decent degree I'd say.   The frames are close in size to a Ruger Blackhawk but barrels are bigger.
I used a Magnum Research BFR revolver one time. It was like that.
Title: Re: Made a deal
Post by: G Dog on August 20, 2023, 01:54:29 PM

A Sam Browne makes functional sense and that’s a nice example.  Needs a wider horizontal piece, though.  Browne designed that after losing his left arm from a sword stroke during the Sepoy Rebellion (1857).  The diagonal shoulder strap (please, it’s not a bandolier) was to stabilize a sword or pistol draw sans left hand.  A later design, by another British general, incorporated dual shoulder straps for weight bearing.

Really nice work.  Good job!