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1873 SAA Colts / Ejector half moon snapped off AND solution
« on: May 28, 2021, 07:54:46 PM »
I just bought a pair of Uberti 1873 SA used, from a gun smith who was selling them on consignment for a client who was retiring from Cowboy action shooting. I had them at the range today and near the end of my session I inadvertently released the ejector instead of riding it forward and the spring snapped it forward. It reached the end of its travel and the impact of half moon rod  against the housing made it snap right off. This kind of surprised me as the spring didn't seem exceptionally strong, as its only function is to return the ejector to its resting position.

I called the gunsmith who said that this was not an unheard off vulnerability that was noted even in the originals. The force of thin metal on metal impacting could cause it to crack, plus there's no way of knowing how many times it was done by the original owner so it may have been close to going any way. Thankfully a new one is only $28 on VTI, though shipping from the US to Canada is more than the part cost  :o.

I really wanted to avoid this happening again, and asked the smith if it would be worth shortening the spring to reduce its force. He pointed out that a weaker spring may cause it to rattle around when firing, particularly with .357 magnum rounds. I disassembled it to remove the broken part when I got home and think I may have found a simple solution. I basically took a mechanical pencil eraser refill, cut it down to a couple mm length, and slipped it in the housing tube before the extractor. I might trim it a wee bit shorter and colour it black with a Sharpie, but it it will act as a soft bumper if the extractor is released under full spring tension. One pic is the bumper installed on the broken ejector. Its easier to see with the half moon not in the way.

This seems like it should be a standard feature on these pistols.


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Army Models / Rough day at the range for an old Uberti 1860
« on: May 14, 2021, 05:09:06 AM »
It's been a couple of years that I was idle with my BP shooting and recently re-caught the bug and joined this board. As a reply to to my intro post regarding my 1860, Sourdough said that the date code indicated 1995 manufacture. I bought it cheap and used from the Canadiangunutz equipment exchange board, and while the action is in great shape, the bore is kind of rough. I am guessing the original owner was not diligent about cleaning after shooting.


So after a long gap I went to the range yesterday with the 1860 and my Great Plains .50 pistol. As usual the Great plains ran flawlessly, was accurate and gave a very satisfying 40 gr FFFG BOOM! The 1860 was an entirely different story. I had spent caps getting caught and making it difficult to cock and cycle to the next chamber. At one point after I'd guess around 5 or 6 cylinder reloads I was entirely shut down by 2 chambers that refused for fire. Not a misfire, but the caps actually didn't ignite. I replaced the caps and tried again but no luck. As the range was closing soon I decapped the nipple and took it home after drowning the cylinder in water before transport. As it turned out I discovered a smashed-flat cap under the hammer hidden in all black fouling. I'm guessing it was acting like a shim and keeping the hammer from fully seating.

I have researched a couple of sources for tuning clone cap and ball pistols for reliability, both a guide from Larsen E. Pettifogger (I don't recall if I got it from here or The High Road) and videos by Duelist1954 on youtube. Both mention upgrading the nipples, but the each recommend a different brand to use, and both sources are referring specifically to Piettas. So I'm looking for some wisdom on what people would recommend on an older 90's model Uberti. I see that Duelist1954 also recommends filling in the groove in the hammer face with JB weld. I am using a small hoard of #10 Remington caps, but they are now impossible to find locally as Remington goes through receivership. I have found a source of #10 and 11 CCI cap when the Remingtons run out.

I'm guessing the nipples are the original ones. Duelist1954 seemed to favour Slix shot nipples while Pettifogger seemed to advocate Treso nipples. Has anyone got any experience with new nipples on a Uberti?

My other issue is the rather mediocre accuracy, especially compared to the Great Plains pistol. I always assumed the Great Plains was so much more accurate because the powder and ball was already in a long heavy barrel and was not being sent from a cylinder through a forcing cone. But then I am seeing posts and video where people are getting decent groupings from a cap and ball. I am no super marksman, but at 10-15m I can get a pretty tight grouping, particularly if I cheese out and fire from a sand bag rest. Even resting, the 1860 is a bit better, but not great.

I am loading 25 gr GOEX FFFG, with a lubed wonderwad and a .457 ball (it goes in without excessive force and leaves a nice circle of shaved lead, so the fit seems perfect). The Uberti manual calls for 22 gr min, 30 gr max, and I have a 25gr spout.

If I can get the cap reliability sorted out I have been considering investing in a new barrel and ditch the pitted bore I currently have.

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NEW MEMBER CHECK-IN / Re: Greetings from British Columbia...eh
« on: May 08, 2021, 05:53:14 PM »
Am interested in your 1860 Army .44. Any manufacturer marks, datecodes, etc?

Regards,

Jim

This was stamped on the surface where the frame mates with barrel.

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NEW MEMBER CHECK-IN / Greetings from British Columbia...eh
« on: May 08, 2021, 04:38:05 PM »
Hi all,

New member checking in from New Westminster, a suburb of Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada. I learned to shoot from my dad in the 70's. The typical route, pellet rifle, then Ruger 10/22 (a gun smith once commented he'd never seen one with a 5 digit serial number), .30-30, then .30 06. I got to try the serious hardware when I joined the reserves at 18, and then the regular army after high school. I was probably the last Canadian soldier to be issued the FN FAL, and just missed out on trying the C7 rifle (M4 manufactured by Colt Canada).

I went through a long gap of not owning or shooting firearms when I went to university, lived with room mates and was generally was pretty broke. About 15 years ago I caught the shooting bug again, and combined with an interest in 18th and 19th century history I got interested in black powder. I applied for gun license and started researching muzzle loaders. Due to a quirk in Canadian gun laws I discovered that flintlocks, matchlocks and wheel locks (regardless of whether they are reproductions or genuine antiques) have antique status and are technically not considered firearms and require no license. I lost patience waiting for my license and ended up buying a Lyman Great Plains .50 cal flintlock. Since then I bought a Great Plains .50 cal pistol in percussion. A cheap, used and somewhat rough shape Uberti 1860 Army, and am currently awaiting an ordered Pietta 1851 Navy Yank Old Silver .44cal. I know the .44 cal is not historically correct, but I'd prefer to be able to cast one size of round ball.

LOL oh and the security questions to post stumped me at first. I answered "What is the shape of a round ball?" with sphere at first. (7+"


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