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« on: May 16, 2023, 01:13:46 PM »
In their videos both Mike Beliveau and Blackie Thomas make much of the idea that brass frame reproduction revolvers are now much harder and more durable than the mods that were manufactured in the 60s, 70s and 80s. Neither of them cite any source nor supporting evidence for that. Both state that the older reproduction brass framed revolvers were a response to the flurry of attention over the CW centennial period and were intended to be mere ‘noise makers’ for the commemorative events of that time ; pretty much jumped-up larpy
kazoos that spit lead but were never intended as serious to almost
serious shooting instruments and were made out of cheap shit brass with a price point to reflect it. Accordingly, the warning labels of that period concerning max powder loads were generally in the 10-12-15 grain zone. They are still in that range. Recent EMF and Pietta instruction materials say just that. Beliveau and Thomas say that the recommended powder limits were never updated to reflect a modern harder charge-capable alloy. I would have liked to have heard the basis of their opinions but they had nothing to say about any of that.
In one Beliveau vid he shoots 30 grains in a brass .44 Pietta Remington. In the comments section I asked wheather that might be a bit on the heavy side. I don’t think the question was well received. His response was a terse “It’ll handle it”. I almost responded with “Yes, but for how long?” - but I refrained. He seemed not to have appreciated such an imputant interrogatory.
So, my dog in this is that I have one brasser - a .36 Pietta G&G (2017). The others are seven steel Pietta ‘working guns’ - Colt Army, Navy and Remingtons. I do not shoot no damn 15 grains in any of those. No sir, that’s not part my life, I don’t do it.
For the past hundred-fifty or so shots on my Griswold I have used 15 grains of Triple 7 which by applying advanced principles of higher mathematics and the (Hodgdon) 15% advisory I determine to be the BP equivalent of 17.25 grains. I’ve also shot about 300 rounds total worth of Pyro P, Swiss and Black MZ at 15 grains. Really haven’t shot it that much for having had
it six years but so far there are no ratchet ‘teeth marks’ on the recoil shield/ring. Nothing to see even with a glass; end-shake / cylinder gap is still as it was when new, .003 (about ideal according to authority) and has held even and constant all around. You see where I’m going with this - don’t need a max load but 20-22 grains would be nice yet not at the risk of jacking up the piece.
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