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General Discussion / Re: Cap and ball channel
« on: May 01, 2024, 09:46:14 AM »
Yeah but he puts it down the barrel. 
I know Hawg, and I don't understand how lube down the barrel only would work either.

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General Discussion / Re: Cap and ball channel
« on: April 30, 2024, 04:55:04 PM »
Hawg, I did purchase some of Blackie's gun butter out of curiosity. It's very soft and after a couple of months it has started to separate and the oil is puddling. I make my own lube concoctions so I don't need anything commercially produced, but it did work on a pair of Uberti Remingtons for about 40 shots each. However, I used it on top of each chamber as well so the stuff was going everywhere so I suppose that really helped.
I now believe in this approach--cap & ball needs a soft but not runny lube but bullet lube grooves gets something stiffer.
G Dog, I know that "Hickok" 75 yard shot is not impossible. I have access to property owned by NSSA guys and I used to finish my shooting day with a cap & ball pistol by unloading my last six shots at a 2'X4' steel plate set at that distance. I could usually get 3 hits anyway.

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General Discussion / Cap and ball channel
« on: April 30, 2024, 12:18:35 PM »
https://www.youtube.com/@CapBallFanatic-gb3jb
At least someone is having fun with cap & ball revolvers. This guy posts new You tube vidoes often and focuses on having a bit of fun with them along with the usual details. Nice change of pace.

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General Discussion / Re: What Black Powder Thing(s) Did You Do Today?
« on: April 06, 2024, 04:25:02 PM »
My order of extra pin gauges came in today. I use them as a mandrel to make paper cartridges. I wanted a few extras to keep in my "36" and "44" cartridge making boxes so I can grab everything in one box to make a specific load. I do Cowboy Matches on a regular basis and when I decide to use my percussion guns that day I find it much easier to use the paper cartridges. Then I spent about an hour just making the paper tubes themselves. I can quickly add powder later but I don't attach any projectile at that time as it allows me to use whatever the situation calls for--either round ball or heel bullet.

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Percussion Caps and Primers / Re: primer seating depth
« on: April 01, 2024, 08:16:08 AM »
I don't ream primer pockets but since I clean cases in a rotary tumbler with SS pins the primer pockets are completely clean.

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Forum Information / Happy Easter
« on: March 31, 2024, 07:55:33 AM »
A very Happy Easter to all of you and loved ones! Hope everyone has good weather for the Egg Hunt. Hope I can some of the eggs I hid for the Grandkids!

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Percussion Caps and Primers / primer seating depth
« on: March 31, 2024, 07:42:22 AM »
At my last Cowboy Shoot my 38-40 black powder loads failed to fire in my Uberti 1866 at a rate of almost 50%. I was very puzzled as this has never happened. Inspecting the offending cartridges later showed light firing pin strikes, but that all primers (Winchester large pistol)were seated below the case rim. Rifle inspection showed nothing amiss so I broke down the remaining cartridges. I then used a RCBS hand priming tool and was able to further seat each primer. Those now empty cartridges fired normally in the same rifle. I load on a Dillon 550B which is now 40 years old, but I inspect each and every cartridge I reload for primer seating depth and know for certain none of those 38-40s had high primers. So I guess I will probably now use the hand priming tool as you can feel the primer bottom out in the pocket much better.

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Leather / Re: AW Brill holster
« on: March 26, 2024, 11:58:35 AM »
Beautiful. Don't know how you could make a holster look much better than that.

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Well, just to satisfy myself that I wouldn't be wasting my time, this morning I did a brief preliminary test. A pair of Uberti mainsprings that came out of Cattleman(circa 1998 & 2000 and are definitely heavier than current production) were installed in my Uberti 51 Navy squarebacks. These two cap suck at the rate of 2/3 every 30 rounds or so despite everything done to them. After 60 total rounds I didn't have a single issue. No changes from usual other than the mainsprings. So I will hunt down more mainsprings of a similar weight as I intend to continue testing these two guns as well as a pair of 61 Navies and 60 Armies. I want to know about what weight mainspring is required to make these things work.


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Marshal Will, I recently obtained a early 3rd gen. Colt SAA that was very lightly used. However,  the original owner had done that leather pad under the mainspring trick. I recall back in the 70's & 80's that was the recommendation in many gun magazines. I tried it back then and found very little difference. Anyway back to that recent purchase. The owner must have installed that leather pad when the gun was pretty new because on taking the grips off the whole area around the mainspring/backstrap/trigger guard was covered in rust. You would know better what type of leather would cause that. It cleaned up quickly though. Fortunately the rust didn't intrude any farther as this particular SAA was a full blue model with what looked like extra polishing, about what the older Pythons used to come with.

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Thanks Mike. Your response sounds like a good solution. I will give it a try. I know what you mean about Colt mainsprings. I've replaced all my original Colt springs(tagged each one to what gun it came out of) and at one point in 3rd gen. Colt started using a tapered one. Worked on my friends un-altered early 1st gen and it had the heaviest mainspring I ever felt.
Marshal Will, I will probably use the Wolf springs as a starting point as many of my guns have them. Even the newer standard Uberti springs aren't much heavier.

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I intend to conduct a series of tests on Colt style percussion pistols in regards to mainspring strength and its affect on percussion cap performance. I would like to accurately measure and compare a variety of mainsprings. I do have a trigger pull gauge and considered measuring that as I swapped out different mainsprings on the same gun. Is there a better way of doing this? I don't want my results to be based on "well, this spring feels heavier than that one". Any thoughts would be appreciated.

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At The Range! / Re: Spring?
« on: March 13, 2024, 04:05:23 PM »
Mike, another option may be CCI #11 caps. Yes I know they aren't the preferred Remingtons. However, CCI always used more priming compound (compared to Remington)which made the cap sit a bit higher on the cone. That might be enough to take up the slack. At least up till the covid issues hit that's how they were made. BTW, those were funny looking cones on the Navy. Hard for me to tell from a picture, but I've never run across straight sided cones as you described. At least not on any revolver.

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At The Range! / Re: Spring?
« on: March 13, 2024, 08:14:55 AM »
FWIW Slix Shot replacement nipples tend to be a tad longer than stock.

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Army Models / Re: Turnbull
« on: March 07, 2024, 09:56:50 AM »
I don't want this to come across as a complaint, but anyway here goes. About 20 years ago I needed a backstrap/trigger guard on a early 3rd generation Colt SAA re-blued. I sent it to Colt and it came back a plum color. Someone locally tried and it was again plum color. Decided to send it to Turnbull and it came back plum color again. I called Turnbull and was told there was something about the alloy used in the early 3rd gen Colts. You would figure Colt themselves would know what to do. Anyway I asked another local gunsmith (Dewey Vicknair) to rust blue it and it finally was satisfactory. Lost touch with Mr. Vicknair and hope he still in business as this gentleman does absolutely beautiful work.

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