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Conversions / Re: Conversion Cylinders
« on: January 13, 2024, 09:39:22 AM »
Quote from: Captainkirk on January 12, 2024, 08:11:54 PM
Quote from: 45 Dragoon on January 12, 2024, 08:06:49 PM
Has anybody ever suggested getting us a "like " button  ?!!

Mike

Yes. Tom has tried. Apparently a more expensive software package is needed. We can bring back the karma button but with 'good karma' comes 'bad karma' as well. We don't need that nonsense.

Hi Kirk, IMO all comments good or bad are welcome. What is not welcome or appreciated are the lurkers that don't contribute to this forum.

Regards,
Richard

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Conversions / Re: Conversion Cylinders
« on: January 11, 2024, 10:29:07 AM »
Oh Mike, please let other's enjoy my humility as an idiot amateur gunsmith. To be serious here, I encourage anyone that isn't a total fool to use your gunsmithing services. There is nothing worst than destroying a beautiful BP firearm with incompetent work. You and I go round and round, but I have never discounted your professional competence working on BP firearms. You will always have my respect.

Fond Regards,
Richard

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Conversions / Re: Conversion Cylinders
« on: January 11, 2024, 09:10:10 AM »
Hi Mike, as I already said I am an idiot amateur gunsmith, but do have some experience in doing the Kirst 1860 conversion. Since I experienced difficulty, I recommend that anyone wanting a gated Kirst 1860 conversion that they have you do that conversion. Over the years I wondered that if I had just removed all the sharp edges from the Kirst floating back plate that my issues would not have occurred.

BTW, part of the enjoyments of doing gunsmith oneself is the knowledge gained. Also, many times the drop in conversion cylinders require some work, either conversion cylinder has length issues, or hand modification requirements. However, once set up, a conversion is as reliable as the original C&B.

Regards,
Richard

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Conversions / Re: Conversion Cylinders
« on: January 11, 2024, 05:18:27 AM »
Quote from: G Dog on January 10, 2024, 04:15:42 PM
So far as the statement goes, it
is true that percussion non-fixed ammo
revolvers are not considered firearms.
But that’s true only for very limited and narrow  purposes.  The categories are so narrow that it’s misleading and inaccurate to to call them ‘not firearms’. Shipping, background checks and
waiting periods are about the only delimiters. 

Convicted felons, minors, those adjudicated insane, druggies, some prescription holders, brandishing, carrying (concealed or open, loaded or otherwise), enhancements for use in committing
a crime, negligent entrustment, state storage requirements, domestic violence, red flag laws and on and on.

They are  ‘firearms’ for a lot more purposes than they are considered not to be.  Calling them ‘not firearms’ doesn’t begin to describe the whole reality.

Hi G Dog, IMO the issue is if a firearm is ATF regulated. BP C&B revolvers aren't ATF regulated. However, modify a C&B revolver to accept cartridges and it now become ATF regulated. Cutting a loading gate opening into the revolver constitutes a conversion. Here in New York State anyone can own a BP revolver as long as they don't have the ability to shoot it. If one has projectiles, powder, and caps, that revolver owner must have a pistol permit with that revolver listed. My pistol permit looks like the Manhattan phone directory. vbg

Regards,
Richard

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Conversions / Re: Conversion Cylinders
« on: January 11, 2024, 04:59:35 AM »
Quote from: Zulch on January 10, 2024, 10:27:00 AM
Quote from: ssb73q on January 10, 2024, 09:45:06 AM
Hi, a few comment on conversion cylinders from an idiot amateur gunsmith. If you are doing a gated conversion for the 1851 use the Howell conversion cylinder that has the backplate screwed in. The Kirst 1860 gated conversion cylinder for the 1860 is a box of worms. That backplate floats where getting a good barrel gap is difficult.
Richard, good afternoon. Thank you for your comments. That is very interesting, your comment on the Kirst for the 1860. You obviously speak from experience on the Kirst/1860. The backplate floats meaning the backplate is not mounted? I have never used Kirst nor a Howell conversion. Thanks again, Z

Hi Zulch, I do have some experience converting BP revolvers to gated conversions. The main issue for the floating Kirst backplate is that with a small barrel/cylinger gap the floating backplate catches the edge of the cartridge rim. 45 Colt cartridge specs give a wide case dimension range that also hurts a set-up. I also have drop in conversion cylinders for my over 50 BP revolvers with the exception of the Paterson's. Photo of some of my gated conversions, including some .22s:

Regards,
Richard

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Conversions / Re: Conversion Cylinders
« on: January 10, 2024, 09:45:06 AM »
Hi, a few comment on conversion cylinders from an idiot amateur gunsmith. If you are doing a gated conversion for the 1851 use the Howell conversion cylinder that has the backplate screwed in. The Kirst 1860 gated conversion cylinder for the 1860 is a box of worms. That backplate floats where getting a good barrel gap is difficult. All manufactured drop in conversion cylinders work well. IMO start with drop in conversion cylinders and avoid creating a regulated firearm. This idiot will now go back to sleep.

Regards,
Richard

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Other Models / Re: capandball shoots the LeMat
« on: December 12, 2023, 09:57:18 AM »
Hi, more Capandball LeMat:


Regards.
Richard

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Other Models / capandball shoots the LeMat
« on: November 17, 2023, 06:57:13 AM »
Hi, capandball shoots the LeMat revolver:



Regards,
Richard

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General Discussion / Small BP handguns shootout
« on: October 12, 2023, 04:37:10 AM »
Hi, a comparison of small C&B handguns:



Regards,
Richard

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Off-Topic Discussion / Deer sleeping in the woods.
« on: October 07, 2023, 11:17:11 AM »
Hi,

I was testing my new DJI Mini 4 Pro drone. What is interesting are the whitetail deer sleeping in the woods. The deer start a 2:24. You can also see my steel targets at the end of my shooting range.



Regards,
Richard

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Walkers & Dragoons / Mike talks the Walker
« on: August 31, 2023, 07:25:23 AM »
Hi, Mike has a new video talking the Walker:



Regards,
Richard

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General Discussion / Re: ssb73q Thank you Richard
« on: August 26, 2023, 04:00:38 AM »
Hi Guys, thanks for the kind words and I am very happy that you are happy. I have always believed that what goes around comes around. I still intend to have my son-in-law keep most of my gun collection. All my handguns are on my NYS pistol permit that adds to the complexity of transferring a handgun. However, if there is something of interest I have, let me know.

'We few, we happy few, we band of brothers'

Regards,
Richard

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Off-Topic Discussion / Re: Update on me and mine.
« on: August 10, 2023, 07:44:15 AM »
Hi EM, my wife had breast cancer, now cured. Cancer is no longer a death sentence. I will be praying for your wife.

Regards,
Richard

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Army Models / Mike does 2023 Uberti 1860
« on: August 10, 2023, 07:37:21 AM »
Hi, Mike has a new video on the 2023 Uberti 1860 Army:


While Mike is ga ga about the Uberti Quality, there are a few comments suggesting otherwise.

Still a short arbor?

Regards,
Richard

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Navy Models / Pietta/Uberti 1851 shootout
« on: June 15, 2023, 05:11:19 AM »
Hi, a Pietta/Uberti 1851 shootout:



Mike's comments about the Uberti short arbor will put some of us in orbit.

Regards,
Richard

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