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Title: Remington SXS revisited
Post by: mazo kid on February 25, 2021, 01:57:53 PM
I got this relic condition SXS from a friend in 2016 (has it really been that long?!), worked on it to get all the parts free and functioning and then set it aside until now. It was rusty from sitting in a garage for who knows how long. The barrels were not on the receiver and wouldn't go on since the gun was so dirty. This is what the stock looked like when I received it.
Title: Remington SXS revisited
Post by: mazo kid on February 25, 2021, 01:59:28 PM
And when the tape was removed!
Title: Remington SXS revisited
Post by: mazo kid on February 25, 2021, 02:08:16 PM
I stripped what little finish was on the stock and forearm, then put it away. This is what the repair job looks like as of now.
Title: Re: Remington SXS revisited
Post by: AlaskanGuy on February 25, 2021, 04:48:06 PM
wow... nice job so far Emery!!

I am also working on a shotgun at the moment... its a Hopkins and Allen SxS perhaps when the rest of the parts get here I will post a couple pics... no where near as nice a gun as the winchester was when they were new.. but it was available, so I grabbed it...

tell me about the barrels on yours? fluid steel? Damascus?
Title: Re: Remington SXS revisited
Post by: Captainkirk on February 25, 2021, 04:55:44 PM
Looking good, Emery!  (7&
Title: Re:Remington SXS revisited
Post by: ShotgunDave on February 25, 2021, 05:29:15 PM
Looking pretty good Em! How did you repair that horrendous break in the stock?

The wood looks like it has some nice figure to it too. How's the forend look?
Title: Re: Remington SXS revisited
Post by: mazo kid on February 25, 2021, 06:55:13 PM
As for the repair.... I was going to peg and epoxy it, but ended up just cleaning the surfaces a bit, drilled some shallow 1/8"holes in both pieces and epoxied them together. I clamped them to hold them in place. I cleaned the stock up and now I am rubbing in some slow oil. Yes, the stock does have some nice figure, it is a shame it got broken. I will probably wrap the area with damp rawhide. I am considering Kevin's suggestion of wrapping with copper (or brass) wire also. The fore end is complete but is some what worn, like the checkering on the butt stock. The buttplate is almost mint (well in very nice condition). Barrels are Damascus steel. More to come later as I progress(?).
Title: Re: Remington SXS revisited
Post by: AlaskanGuy on February 25, 2021, 08:56:54 PM
could I ask, How you came to the conclusion that the barrels are fluid steel?

i am gunna have to look at mine and I do t wanna do the acid thing. i am fairly certain mine are fluid steel as well, but gotta be sure.
Title: Re: Remington SXS revisited
Post by: mazo kid on February 26, 2021, 12:14:11 PM
Well, this is embarrassing!  :-[ I had it in my head the shotgun was a Winchester for some reason. Nope...it is a Remington. I was cleaning the barrels a bit with 0000 steel wool today and there it was...the name stamped in a little plate on the rib. That also revealed the (faint) Damascus pattern. I have gone back and corrected all those errors in the posts. Mark, you could do a tiny test on the bottom of the barrels under the forearm where it is hidden if it isn't readily apparent. Now, please put those ropes away! L@J
Title: Re: Remington SXS revisited
Post by: ShotgunDave on February 26, 2021, 04:13:08 PM
 *6' *6' *6'

I saw the subject change, and was wondering what happened! Now I know!!
Title: Re: Remington SXS revisited
Post by: mazo kid on February 26, 2021, 05:47:16 PM
Hey, in my defense...I am an old guy! I had been working on an old Winchester a while back and guess that stuck in my memory. This Remington was/is a quality gun also.
Title: Re: Remington SXS revisited
Post by: AlaskanGuy on February 26, 2021, 07:50:01 PM
Well, this is embarrassing!  :-[ I had it in my head the shotgun was a Winchester for some reason. Nope...it is a Remington. I was cleaning the barrels a bit with 0000 steel wool today and there it was...the name stamped in a little plate on the rib. That also revealed the (faint) Damascus pattern. I have gone back and corrected all those errors in the posts. Mark, you could do a tiny test on the bottom of the barrels under the forearm where it is hidden if it isn't readily apparent. Now, please put those ropes away! L@J

Sorry Emery!! I...errrr...ehmmm.. Sorry dude.. LOL
Title: Re: Remington SXS revisited
Post by: mazo kid on February 28, 2021, 09:03:25 PM
I am debating whether to work on the repair to make it a bit better looking, or to do the rawhide wrap.
Title: Re: Remington SXS revisited
Post by: Hawg on February 28, 2021, 09:30:08 PM
Just my opine but I'd make it better looking.
Title: Re: Remington SXS revisited
Post by: AlaskanGuy on March 01, 2021, 06:59:09 AM
my opinion is whatever makes it more functional... pretty means it sits on a wall or in a safe around here...  functional means it gets used!!!!
Title: Re: Remington SXS revisited
Post by: mazo kid on March 01, 2021, 05:56:28 PM
I don't know if I can make it a "better looking" repair or not, but I can try. My main concern is to make it a sound repair, thus the thinking of the rawhide wrap. I'll try it without.
Title: Re: Remington SXS revisited
Post by: Hawg on March 01, 2021, 08:59:52 PM
Hey, if it doesn't work you can always do the rawhide later.
Title: Re: Remington SXS revisited
Post by: mazo kid on March 02, 2021, 11:06:20 AM
Yep, my thinking also. And AG....it won't ever be THAT pretty! (7+"
Title: Re: Remington SXS revisited
Post by: mazo kid on March 10, 2021, 03:45:39 PM
OK, I decided I had played around enough and stuck everything back together.
Title: Re: Remington SXS revisited
Post by: mazo kid on March 10, 2021, 03:47:29 PM
The other side.
Title: Re: Remington SXS revisited
Post by: mazo kid on March 10, 2021, 03:55:13 PM
The butt plate. I don't know why some pictures are showing up squished??
Title: Re: Remington SXS revisited
Post by: AlaskanGuy on March 10, 2021, 06:48:34 PM
well, sense the pics didn't turn out, might as well send the whole thing to me... you wont like it!!!!

 L@J
Title: Re: Remington SXS revisited
Post by: mazo kid on March 12, 2021, 01:51:31 PM
These are the locks of the SXS.
Title: Re: Remington SXS revisited
Post by: mazo kid on March 13, 2021, 09:16:14 AM
AG had asked me if the barrels were Damascus and I said they were. I need to modify my answer: they are laminated or wound wire where a strand of steel is wound around a mandrel, welded and then bored smooth.  Damascus is a combination of iron and steel strips or rods that are hammer welded together many times, creating the pattern and then wrapped around the mandrel and welded.
Title: Re: Remington SXS revisited
Post by: mazo kid on March 13, 2021, 02:09:23 PM
Open action.
Title: Re: Remington SXS revisited
Post by: mazo kid on March 13, 2021, 02:13:47 PM
Left stock.
Title: Re: Remington SXS revisited
Post by: AlaskanGuy on March 14, 2021, 06:16:04 AM
i will start the bidding at 200....    &\?
Title: Re: Remington SXS revisited
Post by: mazo kid on March 14, 2021, 12:27:12 PM
Let's see.....that's about $3.00 an hour for labor! L@J
Title: Re: Remington SXS revisited
Post by: Miguel Loco on March 14, 2021, 02:02:27 PM
Let's see.....that's about $3.00 an hour for labor! L@J

That was rich man's wages when that rifle was made!
Title: Re: Remington SXS revisited
Post by: mazo kid on March 15, 2021, 06:30:28 PM
Oh yeah! I believe this is the model 1889 shotgun, made in 4 grades. The top grade was the Damascus barrel model. Even at that time, Damascus was considered a quality steel for making barrels.