concealed carry

[45 Dragoon]

G Dog, I'm sure there are  plenty of folks that would be more than happy for you to have to have background checks done for bp purchases. Just one more inch for the idiots to start with. If you're afraid a past felon might kill ya, what makes you think he has to use a bp gun or even a gun at all. It seems some folks look for ways to hand over every right we have so the loons will be happy.
 I don't understand so much about the felon thing. I've heard the same thing all my life but, if they did their time and paid the penalty, why can't they protect themselves, their fams., vote .  .  .  . ? If they are still too dangerous then why are they in the population?   You mean to tell me that if a 17 yr.old male (viewed as an adult for this crime in most states) "does" his 16 yr old girl friend  (statutory, probably in all states ( I'm not a lawyer)) , he is a felon and is too dangerous to be trusted with a firearm? Or to vote?  I'm sure someone will chime in and enlighten me/ us.

In Calf. , they let illegals receive a driver's license and now they made it automatic that with a driver's license you are registered to vote!!  We don't deserve the country we live in!

Mike
www.goonsgunworks.com
 

[StrawHat]

Speaking only for Ohio.

If a convicted felon serves his time and stays clean for a certain amount of time (3 years from the completion of the sentence), he or she can apply for an expungement of record.  If approved, his record is sealed and he/she no longer has a conviction on record for all practical purposes.

In Ohio, once you are out of prison, your right to vote is restored, no action need be taken by the felon, except to register to vote if the time inside was long enough to get him/her unregistered.

There are some crimes not eligible for expungement, usually involving sex +/or minors, and domestic violence.

I am not a lawyer but when I was a cop, I helped a couple of felons through the process.  Good guys, just made a mistake.

Kevin

[Pustic]

Concealed carry, where you HIDE the exercise of your right to carry arms.   

[G Dog]

Hey Dragoon, I don’t think we disagree on much of anything regarding this BP background check thing.   I’m just surprised that we can get them as easily as we do and that anyone can, even in California, of all places.  You’re correct, a bad buy can weapon-up with anything … a rock, broken bottle, sharp screwdriver, fists and elbows, anything.

As to ‘convicted felons’:  Some people think that any felony conviction is enough of a statement of moral character as to justify a life time ban.  The example of statutory ‘rape’ is useful.  He’s 18 she’s 17 (looks like 23, boom-in) and he gets a lifetime ban.  Say an 18 year old (on a stupid day) steals a bicycle or something worth over four hundred dollars .  In Cali, upon conviction, no guns for him/her, ever.  Some people think  that’s fair, but I don’t. 

I know a bad guy when I read his file … and many of the people this rule applies to have turned out good honest safe citizens and should eventually have their rights restored. 

I’ma hard ass on violent and/or repeat offenders, but on occasion the harshest punishment is sometimes not the best punishment … and sometimes it is, depends. 

Concealed carry, where you HIDE the exercise of your right to carry arms.   

PUSTIC – Why give away the tactical advantage you have in being armed in the first place by flashin it around?  In public places, unless the person is in a uniform,  they should conceal the weapon.