Today's acquisition

[Electric Miner]

A lightly used Cimarron Firearms 1858 Conversion pistol in .45 Colt.

[StrawHat]

I left that one for you to get!

[Electric Miner]

I'd guessed as much...

[Captainkirk]

But...it's a....Ruh...Ruh...Ruh...um, never mind.

[Electric Miner]

I do have my eye on a Uberti-made Colt 1872 in .44 special, also marketed Cimarron.


one of these...

[StrawHat]

I do have my eye on a Uberti-made Colt 1872 in .44 special, also marketed Cimarron.


one of these...

That is a revolver I can recognize!  Not sure what that other thing was!

[Captainkirk]

I do have my eye on a Uberti-made Colt 1872 in .44 special, also marketed Cimarron.


one of these...

Now, that there is purdy!

[Electric Miner]

Been looking over the gun, and it is a sort of Kirst/Mason conversion.

The loading gate section is attached, not sure how.


So, picture 1...

Red circle is the handle of the ejector rod, Yellow circle is the head of the cylinder pin, which is standard 1858, except one of the "wings" has been removed to give clearance for the ejector rod handle. Blue circle is a notch cut out of the original loading lever into which the head of the ejector rod folds during regular use.




Picture 2...

Same thing from the other side.




Picture 3...

Various levers in shooting position. Red circle is end of ejection rod folded into the notch in the loading lever. Yellow circle is end of cylinder pin.




Picture 4...

Underside of barrel. Red circle is end of ejection rod folded into the notch in the loading lever. Yellow circle is end of cylinder pin.





In this pistol, the loading lever serves no purpose, save to keep the 1858 appearance. You have to drop it to use the ejector, or to remove the cylinder, but if you drop it too far, it keeps the cylinder from turning. I could just remove it, if I had a mind to, without affecting performance of the gun.

[StrawHat]

Not that I know anything about those funny looking revolvers but if you remove the loading lever what will keep the extractor from sliding back and tying up the cylinder?  As I recall the ejector rod is not spring loaded and the notch is necessary to keep it from moving under recoil.  Perhaps if you were to remove the actual rammer, it would accomplish what you want, not tying up the cylinder.

Not the rammer, the plunger.  The part that actually contacts the projectile.  The ram itself would still be intact to hold the ejector in place.

[mazo kid]

If you would send that "R" gun to me, I would be happy to test fire it in various modes.   And at no cost to you. No need to thank me, that's just the way I am!

[Electric Miner]

No, I couldn't do that to you.

[Electric Miner]

On the plus side, the cylinder is just wide enough to accommodate the slightly wider rim of the .45 Schofields that I load for my 1860 Richards-Mason conversion pistol. Not all my .45 pistols will. My Ruger Vaquero will, my Uberti Cattleman won't. The rims of the .45 Schofield cartridges overlap in the Cattleman.