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Marshal, this is the primary reason I went with the Taylor's 6 shot version on my Remmy conversion. It was total drop-in...plug 'n' play.Well, that and the fact I get an extra shot out of the bargain.
Lot to be said for an 1871-1872 Open Top
Tonight I took the hand out again and it had the bevels on the outside of the tips but they were much smaller than on the hand in a photo Bill sent me so I stoned just a little more off and it seems to have done the trick.It now works as it should. I'm impressed with these hands. They're certainly worth the money.
Quote from: Marshal Will on May 09, 2022, 07:20:52 PMTonight I took the hand out again and it had the bevels on the outside of the tips but they were much smaller than on the hand in a photo Bill sent me so I stoned just a little more off and it seems to have done the trick.It now works as it should. I'm impressed with these hands. They're certainly worth the money.Marshal, that is great. I am not familiar with the hand in reference. Do you happen to have a picture or two? Glad it worked out well.
Quote from: Zulch on May 10, 2022, 06:03:37 AMQuote from: Marshal Will on May 09, 2022, 07:20:52 PMTonight I took the hand out again and it had the bevels on the outside of the tips but they were much smaller than on the hand in a photo Bill sent me so I stoned just a little more off and it seems to have done the trick.It now works as it should. I'm impressed with these hands. They're certainly worth the money.Marshal, that is great. I am not familiar with the hand in reference. Do you happen to have a picture or two? Glad it worked out well.I don't have a photo of mine but here are the photos from the Kirst website. Note the piano wire spring. Heck, that alone is enough to make the part outstanding. You can see the bevels on the edge of the tips. Mine had bevels but not as pronounced as the ones on the hand in the photo.
Thank you Marshal. Man that is nice looking machined hand. The piano wire, looks pretty sturdy? That is a nice gun part for the application. So this is considered a 2 stage hand??
Quote from: Zulch on May 10, 2022, 08:09:18 AMThank you Marshal. Man that is nice looking machined hand. The piano wire, looks pretty sturdy? That is a nice gun part for the application. So this is considered a 2 stage hand??I've replaced several hand springs with piano wire when they broke. Piano wire doesn't fail like the original flat springs do.It's considered a two stage hand because the tip starts the cylinder rotating and partway through the second tip takes over on the next cylinder pawl and finishes the rotation into the locked position. I believe Colt introduced this on the 1860's as an improvement on the original design.
Quote from: Marshal Will on May 10, 2022, 08:16:20 AMQuote from: Zulch on May 10, 2022, 08:09:18 AMThank you Marshal. Man that is nice looking machined hand. The piano wire, looks pretty sturdy? That is a nice gun part for the application. So this is considered a 2 stage hand??I've replaced several hand springs with piano wire when they broke. Piano wire doesn't fail like the original flat springs do.It's considered a two stage hand because the tip starts the cylinder rotating and partway through the second tip takes over on the next cylinder pawl and finishes the rotation into the locked position. I believe Colt introduced this on the 1860's as an improvement on the original design.Thank you Marshal, so, it isn't quite clear in the photos but how is the cylindrical piano wire affixed to the base of the hand assembly?
Quote from: Zulch on May 10, 2022, 08:38:58 AMQuote from: Marshal Will on May 10, 2022, 08:16:20 AMQuote from: Zulch on May 10, 2022, 08:09:18 AMThank you Marshal. Man that is nice looking machined hand. The piano wire, looks pretty sturdy? That is a nice gun part for the application. So this is considered a 2 stage hand??I've replaced several hand springs with piano wire when they broke. Piano wire doesn't fail like the original flat springs do.It's considered a two stage hand because the tip starts the cylinder rotating and partway through the second tip takes over on the next cylinder pawl and finishes the rotation into the locked position. I believe Colt introduced this on the 1860's as an improvement on the original design.Thank you Marshal, so, it isn't quite clear in the photos but how is the cylindrical piano wire affixed to the base of the hand assembly?I'm not sure how he does it. On the ones I've done, I flatten the end of the piano wire and insert it into the slot that the flat spring goes into and tap it tight.
That's a nice looking part. I wonder if it would benefit my conversion to swap it.
I believe the two stage hand was introduced in the SAA. I could be wrong though.
Quote from: ShotgunDave on May 10, 2022, 08:36:34 AMThat's a nice looking part. I wonder if it would benefit my conversion to swap it.If it's working good, I'd leave it as is. The advantage seems to be that it rotates the cylinder correctly into lock-up with the 5-shot cylinders.Quote from: ShotgunDave on May 10, 2022, 08:36:34 AMI believe the two stage hand was introduced in the SAA. I could be wrong though.That could be but I thought the 1860 was the first model to have the two-stage hand. Maybe someone who knows more about it can chime in here.