Mystery Derringer!

[mazo kid]

I have this Philadelphia Derringer that is just a tad different from the CVA/Jukar guns. I have done searches for Traditions, Pedersoli, Jukar, CVA, Pietta, Lyman, H&A, etc. and have come up with....nothing.  Hawg ol' friend, do you have any insight? Here it is with the typical CVA Derringer.

[mazo kid]

It is just a little sleeker looking, plus it has inlays other repros do not have.

[mazo kid]

It has a butt cap.

[mazo kid]

The only marking I can find is the serial number.

[mazo kid]

Also there is a plate at the top of the grip....

[mazo kid]

And one at the front of the stock.

[mazo kid]

The brass front sight appears to be inlet into the barrel, or maybe soldered?

[mazo kid]

As you can see from the picture where the 2 guns are compared, the lock is smaller, doesn't have the brass attached to the forward part, and the hammer is very different. I can't ever remember seeing another like it.

[mazo kid]

Oh, and there is a very tiny rear sight!

[toot]

EMERY, did you get my messages  I sent you? just curious? please let me know. thanks. toot.

[mazo kid]

Yes, trying to decide how to package the guns.

[Hawg]

I would say it's a kit somebody customized.

[toot]

seams to be a kit that someone rely EMBELLISHED,! it is odd that it is marked to be in 41,cal.on the barrel. is it indeed in that caliber? if so very odd??

[toot]

is the lock plate marked, with DERRINGER? seams not to be? if so that is very odd!

[mazo kid]

The lock plate is NOT marked in any way and is smaller than the "normal" lock plate as I mentioned. The hammer is about 2/3 the size of other hammers. It seems to be  actually 41 caliber as a .395" ball rolls nicely down the bore....which is smooth bore, by the way.