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Welcomes and General Information => Photo Gallery => Topic started by: Zulch on February 05, 2024, 01:18:07 PM
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Saw this behind a glass case display at an Army base. It appears to be an original but I'll leave that to the more educated fellers here on CC. Just wanted to share the picture. Enjoy.
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No expert here but I like the picture. Thanks for posting Zulch!
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No expert here but I like the picture. Thanks for posting Zulch!
Thank you for looking and commenting Navy Six. I guess you and I are the only folks that appreciate it. LOL
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It's hard to comment on a pic devoid of details or markings. It "looks" original if that means anything. Also something is amiss as the chambers don't line up with the forcing cone.
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Hey Hawg. Unfortunately, it was behind the glass. I think it said it had been rendered non functional. I suppose in case someone wanted to steal it? I dunno. :icon_scratch:
I Appreciate your input though.
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Tim, that cylinder looks a tad short. Could that be a Navy model?
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Yap, the cylinder definitely looks odd.
Mike
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You reckon Cap? Kind of sad the Army cobbled parts together thinking maybe no one would recognize?
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That cylinder does look a little short. For comparison, here are a couple of shots of original Remington's I took photos of at the Nevada Sate Historical Museum in Carson City, NV. One of them is nickel plated.
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Bishop Creek. Thank you sir for your input and pictures. The "Remmy" that I posted is from the National Infantry Museum. One would think that the person who was responsible for putting this on display would have been more accurate?
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Yes, you would think a museum would strive to be accurate, which is why the new Visitors Center in Gettysburg is such a disappointment to me. They replaced a lot of the original guns with obviously new reproductions. Then, going to their Bookstore, I searched in vain for any firearms related material. I still enjoy a visit to Gettysburg but now look forward to stopping in Dirty Billy's Hats downtown.
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Navy Six, Just looked up Dirty Billy's Hats. Looks like a great store. I guess that you like to buy different period head gear? Wish there was something like this place in my neck of the woods.
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Zulch, walking into Dirty Billy's is like walking into a Civil War hat store. Even the employees are dressed in period attire. Since I've been involved in Cowboy Action Shooting for over 25 years, you start to accumulate a few hats. Even though the only Cowboy Clubs near me are SASS affiliated, my friend and I do our best to be period correct in all our equipment. Even my wife shoots only black powder when she comes. Might sound silly to some, but there a number of new, younger guys in one of my clubs and I figure, someone has to set an example.
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There's also some whackadoodle gizmo on the frame between the loading lever plunger and the ball cutout. Wazzup with that? :icon_scratch:
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There's also some whackadoodle gizmo on the frame between the loading lever plunger and the ball cutout. Wazzup with that? :icon_scratch:
I think it's a hook holding the revolver to the wall. You can see the other one behind the trigger guard.
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Are those Italian proof marks on the cylinder?
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There's also some whackadoodle gizmo on the frame between the loading lever plunger and the ball cutout. Wazzup with that? :icon_scratch:
I think it's a hook holding the revolver to the wall. You can see the other one behind the trigger guard.
That's right Bishop Creek. That revolver is suspended on a vertical wall by hooks/clips. I'll try an get a close up picture of the revolver.
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There used to be a Mexican restaurant in Columbus MS that had a lot of old Mexican vaquero stuff. Original guns and holsters. spurs, saddles etc. It also had an original Conestoga wagon on the roof harnessed to six white fiberglass horses. I wish I had taken pics of the displays but even if I had I wouldn't have them anymore. It got destroyed by a tornado in the 90's.
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Got some more pictures of the Remington.
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I guess they were just dents. There's nothing to identify it as original. No subcontractors stamps or anything. There's nothing saying it isn't either.
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I guess they were just dents. There's nothing to identify it as original. No subcontractors stamps or anything. There's nothing saying it isn't either.
Right Hawg. Here' another picture
with a serial number on the card.
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That is NOT an original serial number. Originals didn't have letter prefixes. If you left the J off it would be too early for a pinched front sight.
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The thing that makes me curious is the step in the top of the frame to the barrel, I don't recall seeing an original like that but my Pietta Remington replicas have that step. Could it be a Pietta made to look like an antique?
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The thing that makes me curious is the step in the top of the frame to the barrel, I don't recall seeing an original like that but my Pietta Remington replicas have that step. Could it be a Pietta made to look like an antique?
Good eye. I missed that. The original frames were milled close to the top of the barrel.
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I'm beginning to think this is a counterfeit? I need to find out more about it and that's what i will do next week. I've had one Remington by Uberti but it's gone now. I know a guy that works at the Infantry Museum as an exhibit display specialist. Maybe he can tell me more. I appreciate all the input fellers. Thank you.
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My humble thoughts:
1) Just in front of the forcing cone threads, on the frame, there's a sub inspectors stamp "v" in the proper area. The "v" has the little bend on the top of the left line. On the other hand, there should also be the same stamp on the back end of the barrel's flat surface.
2) The distance between the barrel and the loading lever is too wide. As Bishop said about the "step", it seems like a .36 barrel, which is a bit slimmer (don't know if the threads are the same).
3) The pinched front sight is low, which would be period.
1) and 2) speak against, 3) for
It would be nice if we got some measurements, from a ruler on the glas of the cabinet, in order to deduct lengths and diameters .....
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My humble thoughts:
1) Just in front of the forcing cone threads, on the frame, there's a sub inspectors stamp "v" in the proper area.
According to Ware's book there is no known V sub inspectors stamp.
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I didn't know that. Which means that someone has tampered with the frame.
Is it a so called lunch box gun?
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I'll try and contact someone regarding the revolver. Seems there are many unknowns about the gun.