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Curious About Italian Replica 1851 Navy Stamping
« on: November 19, 2017, 04:13:55 PM »
Found this on GB. It is an Italian 1851 Navy .36 brasser with both proof marks on the frame/barrel lug and date code XXVI (1970). Seller says it was "Manufactured by 'FAGS' ". It appears to me to be an ASM or an ASP, S/N 1035 on the frame and barrel lug. As such, the gun does not appear to be from a kit, but the wood is oversized and has a configuration near the trigger guard strap that is unusual to me. The cylinder appears to be plain with no roll-marking, and the front sight has squared right and left sides. It is basically a neglected Schneider and Glassick although it most probably was not marketed as such nearly 50 years ago.

http://www.gunbroker.com/item/715531297

On the underside of the barrel hidden by the load-lever, it appears to have a small milled area (in the white as opposed to blue) with FAGS in a rectangular cartouche, but FAGS seems to be highlighted darker than the surrounding cut. Considering the brass patina/pits and the rust on the cylinder and barrel (it appears to me to have been shot and disassembled very little, per the screw slots, and stored in a damp location), that milled area appears to be a much newer addition, but does not appear to be stamped by hand with individual letter stamps. I would like to see how dark the bore is.

Picture #14 on the seller's listing shows it.



In my literature I can find no mention of this. I am supposing it is an importer's mark, but not comfortable with that supposition.

Once again, I am disappointed with folks on GB who have little/no clue as to what they are selling. I am going to check on how much it sells for.

Anyone have an idea about this pistol?

Jim





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Re: Curious About Italian Replica 1851 Navy Stamping
« Reply #1 on: November 19, 2017, 04:37:31 PM »
Probably Fabrica Armi Gradoga. Gradoga was one of the founders of ASP.
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Re: Curious About Italian Replica 1851 Navy Stamping
« Reply #2 on: November 19, 2017, 04:46:02 PM »
Probably Fabrica Armi Gradoga. Gradoga was one of the founders of ASP.

Very good info, sir. I still puzzle about the white steel where the stamping occurs, considering the condition of the rest of the pistol.

Thanks, Hawg!

Jim
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Re: Curious About Italian Replica 1851 Navy Stamping
« Reply #3 on: November 19, 2017, 04:51:50 PM »
Probably Fabrica Armi Gradoga. Gradoga was one of the founders of ASP.

Very good info, sir. I still puzzle about the white steel where the stamping occurs, considering the condition of the rest of the pistol.

Thanks, Hawg!

Jim


I have no idea. The only FAG stamps I've seen were on the butt. LOL that was an unintended funny.  *6'
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Re: Curious About Italian Replica 1851 Navy Stamping
« Reply #4 on: November 19, 2017, 05:34:41 PM »
That's pretty dang funny Hawg.