Shot of the Day

[Shootemup]

someone put the wedge in upside down

[Shootemup]

Is the front sight on the Remington dovetailed in. From one side it looks like it is but the other side it does not.

[Captainkirk]

1849 Baby Dragoon .31 cal. This is pretty obviously a kit build as there is no date code or proof markings.

[ShotgunDave]

Those are beauties Em. And to top it off, that 60 is a civilian.

Yeah, but...?
Three screw Colt yet cut for shoulder stock. Wazzup wit' dat? ???

Like they say, Colt never wasted a single part. He used everything. So consequently there are a lot of guns out there with anomalies like that.

[Hawg]

Those are beauties Em. And to top it off, that 60 is a civilian.

Yeah, but...?
Three screw Colt yet cut for shoulder stock. Wazzup wit' dat? ???

Like they say, Colt never wasted a single part. He used everything. So consequently there are a lot of guns out there with anomalies like that.

The 3 screw guns that had the better finish didn't have the shoulder stock cut. The ones with it were more like a cheaper grade.

[Fingers McGee]

1849 Baby Dragoon .31 cal. This is pretty obviously a kit build as there is no date code or proof markings.

Then, there is this factory in the white pocket model.  Wonder why?

[sourdough]

Yeah, but...?
Three screw Colt yet cut for shoulder stock. Wazzup wit' dat? ???

Kirk, you gotta get a copy of Charles Pate's book The Colt Model 1860 Army Revolver.

When Colt started to market his Type 3 shoulder stocks, there was no civilian interest, and just a bit more for Army contracts. Since they weren't selling, Colt included them at one stock per two revolvers (both 1851 Navy with a brass trigger guard and the 1848 3rd Model Dragoon, both 4-screw CFS) just to get rid of them. In anticipation that his Type 3 stock would be successful with the 1860 Army, Colt created many 1860 Army frames CFS, but later did not drill and tap the frames for the 4th screw escutcheons. I would not be surprised that these 3-screw CFS revolvers also had an aperture on the butt of the backstrap for the J-hook.

Jim

[sourdough]

1849 Baby Dragoon .31 cal. This is pretty obviously a kit build as there is no date code or proof markings.

What you have is an Armi San Marco 1848 Pocket Rammerless (also called the Wells Fargo/Baby Dragoon). The dead giveaway is the shallow sloped shoulders on the trigger guard. Only ASM made them that way. It also has the historically correct short frame and the short forcing cone of the 1848 Pocket, as well as the squareback trigger guard. Since it is rammerless, it should have no load aperture on the right side of the frame. In 1849 Colt began producing the 1849 Pocket. Since Colt had leftover parts from the 1848 Pocket, the trigger guards (squareback and round) were interchangeable between the 1848 and 1849 and Colt used what parts were in inventory. The 1849 Pocket had a longer frame and a longer forcing cone, such as seen on Fingers' revolver.

Regards,

Jim

[Captainkirk]

Jim...look closely and you'll se there is a loading lever attached. The backstrap is marked EIG, the cylinder scene is not the standard Ormsby stagecoach scene but instead, soldiers chasing Indians on horseback. Dr. Davis was most interested in this gun and in fact had PM'd me to let him know if I ever wanted to sell...your comments regarding the TG are very interesting!

[sourdough]

Kirk, you have got to stop putting foo-foo next to your guns! At any rate, load lever or not, my opinion still stands. Saul Eig was an importer in Florida way back then. My comments about the TG comes from P.L. Shumaker's book concerning Colt Pocket revolvers. Sadly, I gave that book away to a deserving soul upon whom I bestowed a Replica Arms El Paso Texas 1848 Pocket. It has the date code XIX/1963 and was confirmed by Dr. Davis as a first year of manufacture by ASM. You will notice the frame, forcing cone, and the TG similarities. If yours has a load lever/rammer, the load aperture on the right side will be a shallow "V" instead of the larger beveled aperture of the 1849 Pocket.



Regards,

Jim

[mazo kid]

Here is the only Low Wall I have left.

[mazo kid]

Nicely figured buttstock with Schuetzen plate.

[mazo kid]

It has been re-barreled with a tapered octagon Shilen barrel.

[mazo kid]

The rifle is just as I bought it about 16 years ago.

[Captainkirk]

That one is a real beauty, Em!
Is that a Browning version?


Here's my "shot of the day"...my ASM Goonerized Walker conversion...