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Offline StrawHat

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Short Barreled 1851
« on: October 09, 2011, 03:38:43 AM »
Another civilian version, this one has had it's barrel shorted to a bit over 4".



Again, no provision for the stock but the hammer is cut for the safety pins but there are no pins on the cylinder. 



It was built by Armi San Paulo in 1973 and shortend sometime after it left the factory.  It handles well but has not yet made a range outing.  This one may be a candidate for conversion.  It would make a nice medium caliber revolver.
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Re: Short Barreled 1851
« Reply #1 on: April 12, 2012, 11:40:06 AM »
Finaly got this one out to do some shooting.  I carried it and my FrankenTrapdoor, 20 rounds for the rifle and 30 for the revolver.  I started in close and got on paper at 25 yards with the first shot.  A little windage and I was hitting in the center.   The next 3 went into a nice group and I was happy.  I reloaded and moved a paper plate out to fifty to see what would happen.  The groups opened but I could see enough potetial in the revolver, I may keep it.  So, I reloaded and started walking the property.  Targets would appear, rocks, stumps 5 gallon pails, lids for the same, etc.  I would estimate range and pop them with whichever firearm seemed appropriate.  The trapdoor performed as I would expect it to, sight, squeeze, boom, and hit.  It never gets old!  The 51 suprised me.  While I could not hit as well at the long ranges as I could with the rifle, I was pleased that at least out to 100 (and maybe a bit farther) yards, I was holding well enough to worry a five gallon pail lid.  Anything smaller and I had trouble holding a sight picture.  The sighting on the 1851 is the standard hammer V and front cone.  I will clean up the V to a square sided notch and install a dovetailed front sight for the next outing and see if it allows me a steadier picture.  But I was pleasantly pleased with the 51.  And while it paired well with the 50-70, I doubt it will replace the Richards Conversion I normally carry. 

But at least I know it will do as a woods gun.
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Re: Short Barreled 1851
« Reply #2 on: April 12, 2012, 08:48:58 PM »
Nice 'un! ;)
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Re: Short Barreled 1851
« Reply #3 on: May 22, 2012, 12:00:34 AM »
Here's an 1851 .44 C&B and an 1861 .38spl/.38Colt with it :-*


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Re: Short Barreled 1851
« Reply #4 on: October 23, 2012, 11:03:07 PM »
hello just picked up a -1851 navy colt .44--it has the brass case ...
any ideas on a max load for this gun?  right now im using 24 grains-just because thats what my loader is......the ball sits kinda low in the cylinder--is it safe to add a few more grains?
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Re: Short Barreled 1851
« Reply #5 on: October 24, 2012, 01:42:05 PM »
First off; Welcome aboard!
Pietta recommends no more than 25gr 3F or Pyro P on brass frame revolvers. Being an open-top I would scale back to 20. You can use filler or double-wad under the ball. The Lee 200gr conical bullets also sit much higher. One of those over a wad should suit you nicely with 20gr
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Re: Short Barreled 1851
« Reply #6 on: October 24, 2012, 11:55:41 PM »
thanks-captainkirk......

   just what i wanted to hear......fun little gun--slow to load quick to fire !
im using #10caps on it tried 11s but they fit a bit loose......
maybe ile get a holster for it  and use it for rabbits or spruce hens-parmigans.
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Re: Short Barreled 1851
« Reply #7 on: October 29, 2012, 10:46:13 AM »
just a shot of my 1851 navy colt............
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Re: Short Barreled 1851
« Reply #8 on: March 24, 2013, 09:26:36 PM »
Here's a pair of shorties...

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Re: Short Barreled 1851
« Reply #9 on: March 28, 2013, 10:28:17 AM »
Some of my shorties:

Sheriff's model 1860s


Fixed sight 5.5 inch ROAs


Griswold & Gunnison


Pietta US Marshall models in .44


Leech and Rigdon (Augusta model CH Rigdon)


Pietta US Marshall in .36
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