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Re: Dance Wannabe #2
« Reply #15 on: September 29, 2020, 05:27:26 PM »
Sounds like that guy should be workin at Walmart, not Taylors.
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Re: Dance Wannabe #2
« Reply #16 on: September 29, 2020, 09:05:32 PM »
Too bad you got someone that didn't know about the recommended powder, Capt. My experiences with them have been great. I've shot BP cartridges with 3F and no problems. As to cleaning, I just dropped them in water for a while and they cleaned right up. I would think APP would be a good choice for cartridges. Trail Boss is good but a bit messy if you're using drop-in cylinders.

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Re: Dance Wannabe #2
« Reply #17 on: September 30, 2020, 03:29:12 AM »
Hey Captain,

I think it probably is more of a liability issue than know how.

When I contacted Accurate about loading Black MZ,
they stated over & over only the loads they tested were safe to shoot.

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Re: Dance Wannabe #2
« Reply #18 on: September 30, 2020, 06:43:57 AM »
Does the Black MZ burn with the same cloud of smoke as BP? I remember trying Black Mag 3 before it was discontinued. It was hard to tell the difference between that and BP, other than it burned cleaner and a slight reduction in smoke.

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Re: Dance Wannabe #2
« Reply #19 on: September 30, 2020, 08:27:45 AM »
I intend to load some sort of low smoke load. My wintertime shooting is all indoor and black powder is not allowed indoors. Trail Boss is my #1 choice but nobody has any in stock at this time.
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Re: Dance Wannabe #2
« Reply #20 on: September 30, 2020, 08:29:44 AM »
How does APP compare? I have no experience with it.

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Re: Dance Wannabe #2
« Reply #21 on: September 30, 2020, 08:31:09 AM »
How does APP compare? I have no experience with it.

What sub is APP?
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Re: Dance Wannabe #2
« Reply #22 on: September 30, 2020, 08:33:41 AM »
How does APP compare? I have no experience with it.

What sub is APP?
American Pioneer Powder. I saw a post that mentioned it somewhere recently and filed the name to check out in the future.

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Re: Dance Wannabe #2
« Reply #23 on: September 30, 2020, 08:41:15 AM »
I have Pyrodex to use, but as we know, it smokes a lot and smell like sulfur. I'm sure I'd get chucked out on my keister after about 3 rounds of loads like that.
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Re: Dance Wannabe #2
« Reply #24 on: September 30, 2020, 08:49:03 AM »
I hear ya. I shot off 6 rounds of Black Mag 3 indoors one time and it took 15 minutes for the fans to clear the air. It didn't smoke quite as much as BP, either. Not a good thing to do.

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Re: Dance Wannabe #2
« Reply #25 on: September 30, 2020, 02:42:32 PM »
If you check in on the SASS wire you should find many safe smokeless loads.  My moderate load of Win 231 yielded about 700 fps from a 4 5/8 Vaquero and they did well in my Rossi rifles, too.  I've shot the same load in my Taylor's cylinders with no problems, YMMV.  GF

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Re: Dance Wannabe #2
« Reply #26 on: September 30, 2020, 05:03:40 PM »
If you check in on the SASS wire you should find many safe smokeless loads.  My moderate load of Win 231 yielded about 700 fps from a 4 5/8 Vaquero and they did well in my Rossi rifles, too.  I've shot the same load in my Taylor's cylinders with no problems, YMMV.  GF

There is a nice smokeless load very similar to my .44-40 load using Unique...700-ish. Only bad part is 7gr of Unique barely covers the bottom of the case. Supposedly, when the carts are stacked in the mag horizontally (normal shooting position) the powder all lies on the bottom of the case and supposedly gives some pretty wide velocity swings. I've never chrono'd it to prove or disprove, tho...the .45 LC is a pretty big case.
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Re: Dance Wannabe #2
« Reply #27 on: October 01, 2020, 03:39:25 AM »
Hello All,

American Pioneer Powder is back in business.
They are producing powder again.
I don't know if Aliant is going to bring back Black MZ.
If they do, I'm sure we won't see the $9.99 a pound again.
Aliant Black MX was produced by American Pioneer Powder.

http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?409532-American-Pioneer-Powder-is-Back-in-Business-amp-Available

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Re: Dance Wannabe #2
« Reply #28 on: October 04, 2020, 11:14:35 AM »
New hammer and bolt arrived. The hammer needed deburring around the base of the hammer cam. It looked like they had drilled the hole and shoved the cam in without deburring the hole. That cleaned up easily. Also, this cam isn't goobered up the way the other one was.



The legs on the new bolt were quite a bit longer than on the original preventing the hammer from rotating back. I ground off about half the extra length and the hammer cycled fine. In the photo they aren't lined up right so just compare the tips beyond the concaved part that rides on the cam.



Here's the bolt/trigger spring with both sides lightened.



Fitting the bolt took a bunch of times in and out to get it right. A little at a time did it.



With the old hammer and cam, this is where the bolt came up. Way too soon, even for a 5-shot cylinder in a 6-shot gun.



Here is where it comes up, now. Much better and the percussion cylinder still works right.



Best of all, the action is smoooth. I'm pleased. Now that the thing works fine, I can cut the loading channel get on to turning this into Dance Wannabe #2.

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Re: Dance Wannabe #2
« Reply #29 on: October 04, 2020, 12:39:05 PM »
Very nice! It appears that fitting the new bolt was a bit tedious. Good job!

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