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PIETTA '60 .44 HANGING UP
« on: May 16, 2021, 02:56:45 PM »
Have an 1860 Pietta Colt .44: been shooting fine until just the other day: shot a couple cylinders I'd loaded a while back, just to clean them out: everything was great: after cleaning it and putting back together, the cylinder intermittently locks up when I try cocking it: remove barrel and cylinder; reassemble and will function OK for a few cycles, then locks up again.
Going to disassemble, but before doing so wondering what I should be looking for!!??
Thanks!
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Re: PIETTA '60 .44 HANGING UP
« Reply #1 on: May 16, 2021, 03:14:11 PM »
The first thing I would check is for a broken trigger/bolt spring.
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Re: PIETTA '60 .44 HANGING UP
« Reply #2 on: May 16, 2021, 03:55:32 PM »
Just realized I posted in Navy: should be in ARMY!!!
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Re: PIETTA '60 .44 HANGING UP
« Reply #3 on: May 16, 2021, 04:15:07 PM »
No worries John, I'll move it to the Army section.

I agree with Jim. It sounds like the bolt spring has broken. It could also be the hand spring. If the hand isn't engaging the cylinder, it won't turn. You'll have the gun apart anyway, so it's worth a check.
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Re: PIETTA '60 .44 HANGING UP
« Reply #4 on: May 16, 2021, 06:54:11 PM »
It could also be a cap frag in the works. When tearing it down for the checks as posted above, make sure to keep your eyes open for them...
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Re: PIETTA '60 .44 HANGING UP
« Reply #5 on: May 17, 2021, 08:56:07 AM »
It could also be a cap frag in the works. When tearing it down for the checks as posted above, make sure to keep your eyes open for them...

Never thought of that. You're absolutely right Capt. Check for the obvious first. Good call.
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Re: PIETTA '60 .44 HANGING UP
« Reply #6 on: May 23, 2021, 05:55:22 PM »
Had a great thought, based on your guys helpful shots!! Sent it off to Sergio for his magical tuning: he'll scope out the issues in the process!!
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John

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Re: PIETTA '60 .44 HANGING UP
« Reply #7 on: May 23, 2021, 09:26:52 PM »
Had a great thought, based on your guys helpful shots!! Sent it off to Sergio for his magical tuning: he'll scope out the issues in the process!!
Thanks!
John

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Re: PIETTA '60 .44 HANGING UP
« Reply #8 on: May 26, 2021, 10:27:56 AM »
Hi, this may seem harsh, but one should know the operational theory of their firearm and be able to tear down, inspect, and reassemble the firearm. Fixing simple problems for a fee may seem the economical cost path, but I assure you it is the high cost path in the long term. Learning one's firearm function and internals only enhances the shooting hobby. Every time I pull the hammer back, I understand what is occurring in my revolver. There's joy in knowing that. That knowledge brings me closer to my firearm and enhances the joy of use and makes me a better shooter. I know and love all my guns!!!!!!!!!!

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Re: PIETTA '60 .44 HANGING UP
« Reply #9 on: May 26, 2021, 06:06:24 PM »
Hi, JJ! Seems like a reasonable approach to clearing up multiple issues, especially if you are unfamiliar with the innards of your revolver(s). Richard does raise a valid point in that almost every black powder gun you buy today is not much more than a fully assembled kit. Once you get the inner working figured out you can see how roughly finished some of them are. Anyone even the least bit handy with tools can turn a so-so gun with a heavy hammer spring, heavy trigger, poor timing and poorly finished wood or metal into a real showpiece with a few tools and some elbow grease. After you get yours back from the Outlaw Kid, I suggest you tear it down after your next outing/cleaning and get a look at what's been done inside. You can learn a lot from these guys. And, welcome to the forum, BTW! L@.
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Re: PIETTA '60 .44 HANGING UP
« Reply #10 on: May 26, 2021, 07:32:22 PM »
Surgio is gunna have a new address pretty soon... better hurry !!!
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Re: PIETTA '60 .44 HANGING UP
« Reply #11 on: May 30, 2021, 07:12:09 PM »
What?! Did you talk him into moving "up nort'"?

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Re: PIETTA '60 .44 HANGING UP
« Reply #12 on: June 07, 2021, 08:07:57 PM »
Is it a four-screw model with shoulder stock lugs?

When taking apart my 1860 Army for the first time, there was a loud snap when I unscrewed the left-side stock screw. Turns out the screw is positioned over the channel where the hand slides along and the hole penetrates through and into that channel. This will not be a problem, except the stock screw was protruding a half-millimeter too deep into that channel. That snap? That was the tension in the bound-up hand suddenly being released as I withdrew the slightly overlength screw. All it took was a little filing to shorten up that screw to prevent collision with the hand.

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Re: PIETTA '60 .44 HANGING UP
« Reply #13 on: June 07, 2021, 08:16:37 PM »
Welcome to the forum, Dashing Leper. Err...interesting moniker ya got there! How about stopping by the Welcome Wagon thread and tell us the story behind it and a bit about yourself? You sound like this ain't your first rodeo, so do tell!
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Re: PIETTA '60 .44 HANGING UP
« Reply #14 on: November 13, 2021, 07:29:28 PM »
Had a great thought, based on your guys helpful shots!! Sent it off to Sergio for his magical tuning: he'll scope out the issues in the process!!
Thanks!
John

It may take a couple of years to get it back.  Anyway, you may not need the full Monte to get it running again.  See above.
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