Noobie from the Great White North

[Retreever]

I have been shooting percussion revolvers for 2 years now, my original purchases were a Pietta and Uberti 1858 Remington which have been replaced with a pair of the Cimarron Uberti 1858 Remingtons.

I just purchased my first 'Colt' percussion revolvers, both from auctions here in Canada. One is a Navy Arms 36 cal. Revolver; 6" Barrel, and the other is (Mfg Unknown) .44 cal Revolver 7.5" barrel. However it does not say which Colt models they are supposed to be replica's of - can anyone identify them for from the attached pictures?

Thanks, Retreever

[ssb73q]

Hi Retreever, welcome, good to have you over here. The 1858 is an excellent C&B revolver, but there is nothing more beautiful and joy to shoot as a Colt (replica). I look forward to seeing your posts here.

BTW, your revolvers are 1851s. The .44 revolver is a modern creation revolver since all 1851s were .36.

Regards,
Richard

[Captainkirk]

Hi, and welcome to Colt Country!
Your replicas are "brasser" models of 1851 Navy revolvers, one in the true "Navy" caliber of .36 and one in the "Army" caliber of .44 (Colt never manufactured the Navy model in .44 cal, nor produced a brass framed model, though some Confederate copycats did)
Either way, they should be good shooters if you don't exceed the maximum recommended loads of:

.36 cal-20gr 3F
.44 cal-25gr 3F

Most likely, you will find they will shoot more accurately with lesser loads and you will save on powder as well. Do a thorough inspection of the arbor (for tightness and security) and recoil shield (for denting and imprinting from the cylinder teeth) before shooting. If you need any help in this area feel free to ask myself or any of the other members here how to ID problem areas. A well-maintained brasser should be able to last a lifetime of shooting enjoyment if not abused or mistreated.

BTW...your .44 appears to be missing a front sight?

[Captainkirk]

On second glance, your .36 Navy appears to be a 5 shot "pocket" model. I'd love to see some close-up shots of the marking, maker's marks and other details.

Fingers...care to weigh in on these?

[Retreever]

On second glance, your .36 Navy appears to be a 5 shot "pocket" model. I'd love to see some close-up shots of the marking, maker's marks and other details.

Fingers...care to weigh in on these?

Hey Cap'n, pics I posted were from the auction house will likely be a couple of weeks before I actually have it in my hot little hands but will post additional pics then. One thing I noticed that appears odd is the squared off back on the trigger guard for the .36 cal

Retreever

[Captainkirk]

One thing I noticed that appears odd is the squared off back on the trigger guard for the .36 cal
Retreever

That was standard fare on on Walker, transitional Walker, first and second model Dragoons (thirds were rounded) and some of the Navy '51s. Also, my Baby Dragoon is squared as well as some Wells-Fargo and pocket models. If yours is a pocket it would probably be HC (except for the brass frame, of course!  )

[Captainkirk]

Note the squared-off TG on the 3 Dragoons in the middle as well as the Baby on the far right...

[mazo kid]

Retreever, welcome from Wisconsin!  Also from the great white north, although I am guessing you may be from our great neighbor of Canada. OK, I just re-read your post where you did say Canada.

[sourdough]

Retreever,

Welcome from the Left Coast of WA State! You must be a fan of the McKenzie Brothers, eh?   

Kirk is correct that it is a 5-shot, and with no rebated cylinder it cannot be a .36 Pocket Navy, so it is an 1849 Pocket .31 with a squareback trigger guard. Whomever wrote the tag has/had no idea because the tag says it is a single-shot revolver. That is a new one on me; maybe it should say single-action revolver.

We all love photos and info as to any markings, date codes, etc. for identification. There are very many folks here who know a LOT about such things and can help you out. Besides, this group is just a lot of fun to hang with, the most relaxed forum I have ever had the pleasure of being a member of thanks to Kirk and Shotgun Dave.

Regards,

Jim

[Hawg]

Welcome. Personally I wouldn't go over 15 grains in any of those brass frames.

[mike116]

Welcome,   from Colorado.   (But you already knew that)

[ShotgunDave]

Welcome from Kommiefornia Retreever!

Looks like you have a good start on some black powder Colts. As you're seeing, you'll find all the answers to your questions here. Great group of guys, always helpful.

[tljack]

Welcome from Montana! Glad to have you here.

[Retreever]

Just thought I would update everyone, I just received the transfer notification from the gubermint for the Navy Arms Colt mentioned earlier in this thread in the paperwork they have it as a reproduction Colt 1848 Pocket Baby Dragoon. I should have the actual gun in a couple of days will post more pics with marks etc.

Retreever

[ShotgunDave]

That's odd. Someone on the other end doesn't know what they had.